Homeless situation.... (1 Viewer)

[farfromsilent]

Neither of yall are in any position to be finger pointing about narrative.

So you are the only one that can...Got ya. GTFO here with that.

 

[jboss]

So now I rationalize poor peoples suffering. And I don’t advocate for ANY policies that help the poor. Are you guys actually reading what you’re saying?

How's that $90000 inheritance you got treating you Oliver Twist? Musta yanked a whole lotta bootstrap for that hard earned cash.

 

[jboss]

So you are the only one that can...Got ya. GTFO here with that.

So you admit you're pushing a narrative?

 

[farfromsilent]

So you admit you're pushing a narrative?

No I'm not pushing a narrative. All I've said in this thread is that we need to take care of our own homeless before we import more. No narrative there.

 

[Tapxe]

No I'm not pushing a narrative. All I've said in this thread is that we need to take care of our own homeless before we import more. No narrative there.

So why don't we take care of them?

 

[jboss]

No I'm not pushing a narrative. All I've said in this thread is that we need to take care of our own homeless before we import more. No narrative there.

Buddy....buddy....come on buddy.....

 

[farfromsilent]

So why don't we take care of them?

I'm saying we should. I think we just approach it from different angles is all. Just because I may disagree with the method that you would prefer to go about it, doesn't mean I'm not for helping them.

 

[Tapxe]

I'm saying we should. I think we just approach it from different angles is all. Just because I may disagree with the method that you would prefer to go about it, doesn't mean I'm not for helping them.

I agree we should. I think it would be rather easy for a country with our resources. I just don't think it's being done. Although we seem to be able to find any amount of money necessary for fighting with others. We just cannot seem to find money to take care of ourselves.

Who benefits from that?

 

[crosswatt]

So, we're really getting off course here, and are taking things to personal levels that are not in keeping with the desired tone of this board. So let's stop attacking each other and discuss the issue and what our opinions are in dealing with it.

 

[MTDB1983]

How's that $90000 inheritance you got treating you Oliver Twist? Musta yanked a whole lotta bootstrap for that hard earned cash.

its true. And I was 29 at the time. Because I grew up so poor, which a I stated in the post you’re referring to, we didn’t know how to have money. We tried to invest. But we acted as many poor people do. We made terrible choices and as such, that break did NOTHING but give me regret and bitterness. We had nothing of that left within 2 years.

I’m hard on people bc I’m hard on myself. I’ve made every mistake there is to make besides drugs and kids young.

I was 100% honest about everything I said and if you can’t accept that, then I’m sorry.

 

[farfromsilent]

Getting back on topic. I think the work farm program that was mentioned earlier would be a good idea. I just didn't like the inference of forcing someone to go to one of those work farms. That aspect of it had the feel of indentured servitude or slavery, though I'm sure that's not what he intended.

 

[MTDB1983]

I think there is definitely a group of poor that should be assisted.

Vets
Elderly
Disabled

I’m all for the betterment of my neighbor. What I will not do is get behind institutions that enable poverty under the guise of assisting. And I won’t support programs that are taken advantage of on a large scale.

 

[crosswatt]

Getting back on topic. I think the work farm program that was mentioned earlier would be a good idea. I just didn't like the inference of forcing someone to go to one of those work farms. That aspect of it had the feel of indentured servitude or slavery, though I'm sure that's not what he intended.

My issue with it is that it's just unrealistic. Like, they aren't going to work for themselves as it is. Why would they work for someone else of a farm? We need to address the underlying issues as to why they won't participate in the economy, and see if we can foster a course change for those able. That's why having a place to find them at I think would be advantageous and help boost the success rates that are so low right now.

 

[Flipx99]

My issue with it is that it's just unrealistic. Like, they aren't going to work for themselves as it is. Why would they work for someone else of a farm? We need to address the underlying issues as to why they won't participate in the economy, and see if we can foster a course change for those able. That's why having a place to find them at I think would be advantageous and help boost the success rates that are so low right now.

Would this plan for providing housing include illegal aliens, like the plan for providing healthcare for all?

Because if we do that, it seems kind of obvious that we are going to attract more illegal aliens. The U.S. will become the Portland/SF of the world.

 

[Tapxe]

I’m all for the betterment of my neighbor. What I will not do is get behind institutions that enable poverty under the guise of assisting. And I won’t support programs that are taken advantage of on a large scale.

I'm curious, have you seen any legitimate studies and spent real time investigating the effectiveness of such things or is this just a statement based on gut feel and repeating what you heard somewhere?