How bad was this season (1 Viewer)

[Elvis]

The sad truth is this. Look at the Colts after Manning. The Broncos after Manning. The Pats after Brady. The Packers after Rodgers. The Saints are not unique. This is likely the new norm. And the most likely scenario is that the next HC will also be fired after 2 or 3 years. Because that's the norm for the NFL with only a few exceptions. And the Saints are no longer one of them.

What you say may be true, but you can't get better by staying bad. We were a bad team this year. Staying with the same thing isn't going to be entertaining to this fan base. At least with new coaches and new players there is hope for something better even if it never comes.

 

[Saint KayBee]

Many of you are saying you expected this season to be better than like ten different Brees/Payton seasons.

Wut.

 

[spflash]

Come on, the reason anyone will say that this season is the "worst ever" is either b/c they became Saints fan during the Drew/SP era and this truly is the worst they have experienced or the most logical reason is that while 7-8 isnt the worst record in the world, it feels like it is the worst b/c we all get the feeling this team isnt building up to anything. Derek Carr isnt all of the sudden going to become Kurt Warner/Carson Palmer have a renaissance-like resurgence/leap next year, if DA cant have a winning record with the schedule hes had this year, imagine when this team has to play much better QBs on a regular basis (look at this season opposing talent at QB, its shockingly mediocre at best overall), all the stars on defense are only getting longer in the tooth (Davis, Lattimore, Jordan).

I hate to bring that season up, but the year prior to winning the Super Bowl, we went 8-8...and while we felt disappointed in the way things ended, we know this team was on the verge of something special...we didnt know it at the time, but of course it ultimately meant a Super Bowl berth/win. This 7-8 team feels like its going nowhere in a flash, please tell me where the optimism is? I think the negative trajectory of our future is why some ppl would say this yeah feels like "the worst", and while i disagree on the aspect of this year being remotely the worst ever, i can understand that sentiment at least.

I think a better poll woulda been "Is this the most disappointing team in Saints history?" b/c with that ill agree.

Just look at our schedule, the fact this team didnt win at least 10 game is appalling...imagine if we had to play the NFC West/AFC East instead of the NFC North/AFC South, good grief...

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

Many of you are saying you expected this season to be better than like ten different Brees/Payton seasons.

Wut.

With this Tee Ball arse schedule and our new "Franchise QB".....It freaking should've been.

The fault lies with one proven loser

 

[Witness]

The Ditka years in the late 90s were far worse. There was no hope for years of the team doing anything, I remember everyone at school just talking trash how much they stink until the we got to the point of ignoring them completely.

Now, I would say that this year is certainly up there for most disappointing because of the talent on the field and that weak schedule should have easily spelled at least 10 wins as the minimum expectation.

 

[liveoakh]

I do not want to give the defense a pass on this seasons meltdown, but they have very fixable holes to fill next season. Cam and Davis may not be back next year. We will lose some experience, but we will get younger at those positions.

The Offense is a mess, going back to last yr. The O line is a mess...........again! we Draft LT bust. Then we reup Ruiz, and gave an extension to a bad player, because we could get him at a good deal.

We still don't know if it is Carr, Pete C. , or the O line.

Every QB that has played in this system has been made better in this system....Drew, Teddy, Jamies, Taysom, Trevor, Andy. They all had mixed results, but all could throw TDs. All looked better in our system, than their previous teams.

Except..................Carr!!!!! He is the only exception. He doesn't look better. What did we change on offense this season, Carr and Penning starting. When your big $150 mill FA QB underwhelms and your LT busts out. You add a gaslighting GM, an unimaginative play caller, and an unemotional conservative HC. We never had a chance guys.

 

[Booker]

I think the big frustration with this year’s team is that it feels like the parts are greater than the sum. It’s week after week of mediocre football, and when they win it’s just because the other team was more mediocre, so those games aren’t even fun to watch because it’s two bad teams bumping uglies for three hours. I can’t remember the last time this team came out and played over their heads to pull an upset.

 

[ShadowMan]

Almost paper bag bad.....

 

[MarylandWHODAT]

Disappointed.

I have seen much worse in my almost 40 years of fandom but this is by far the most disappointing. Awful Saints teams in the past had bad players, bad coaches but a forgiving fan base. We loved our “lovable losers”. We made fun of it with the Aints and bagheads. It was party to a degree.

I’ve said this before. The Saints of old were horrible and fans were just happy to win a game. Then they got pretty good under Mora. Expectations were raised but tempered. And after Mora, were the Ditka error and the Haslett era and under Haslett, they were good. And then by the grace of God himself, the Saints landed Sean Payton and Drew Brees and the Saints went from good to great. From a laughing stock to respected. To a team with stupid moves to one with a solid reputation. Yes, there were some missed but more hits than not. With that Super Bowl win, the Aints were laid to rest. Gone!

Now under Dennis Allen, this team is disappointing. All the talent in the world but so poorly coached. Derek Carr is beyond a bad move. Dennis Allen cannot motivate anyone. Fair to say that the Aints are back. Couple that with Loomis Math starting to erode and the Piper is a calling, this franchise is truly headed for dark days. The opposite of great is good and the opposite of good is bad. Well, this group of millionaires is awful so they have quite the ladder to climb. The Saints are now a place where great athletes do not want to play. Salary cap hell, a lame duck coach, a thinning fan base and doom and gloom on the horizon, why would any great player with options want to play for the Saints? And having that taste of great eroded that forgiving fan base. Wins are what count now. Period.

The worst thing that will happen to a team is apathy. It’s the Vince McMahon theory: if they are cheering, great. If they are booing, great. If they are doing nothing, you have problems. The Saints now have problems and if the rumors are true with Dennis Allen staying on another year, 2024 is already over. We know the outcome and it’s losing.

Disappointed.

 

[Yatman]

in the beginning it was still a game, and we were so bad at it we enjoyed it as entertainment

it's no longer a game and by its own admission now "entertainment", yet this coaching staff makes far less enjoyable

there have been worse times, ditka being the nadir

and of course, there was this guy

 

[boutte]

I was a bit young to be paying attention to coaches when Bum was coach, but looking back on his record, he was pretty bad. Although even he got the team to 8 wins in 1983. Are we expecting another win this season?

Bum gave up on us and turned us into an Oilers Good Old Boys Club. Traded Archie for a washed up LT, brought in Stabler who was so far on the wrong side of the hill he was on level ground. He didn't just quit on us he destroyed what little good he did while he still cared. Set us back years.

 

[boutte]

We're the best bad team in the League.

 

[BayouSAINTJoe]

in the beginning it was still a game, and we were so bad at it we enjoyed it as entertainment

it's no longer a game and by its own admission now "entertainment", yet this coaching staff makes far less enjoyable

there have been worse times, ditka being the nadir

and of course, there was this guy

Surprisingly he's still coaching IIRC...maybe give him a holler...if we're going to be mediocre stop half assing it

 

[Super Hooper]

the used Carr sold to us was a