Jets taking calls for WR Davante Adams……….. Adams expected to be released if no trade (10 Viewers)

[St. Geezy]

Yup, totally agreed.....makes sense only if you think you're a WR away from contending....

We gotta get out of this mindset of “You’re only contending if you’re OBVIOUSLY contending.”

Teams catch fire all the time unexpectedly just by putting their best foot forward.

You don’t have to have an obvious 15-2/14-3 roster destined for HFA to be “contending.”

Give your all to field the best team possible, and see where it takes you.

This isn’t directed at you yourself, but I feel sometimes like our only SB team coming on the heels of a 13-0 start has given people a never-ending bad impression of what a contending team has to look like.

Two top of mind examples…I bet the 2006 Saints or 2024 Vikings had known they’d be contending, they’d have done something differently as far as adding a final piece or two.

 

[St. Widge]

I’ll say this - I don’t necessarily disagree with what you’re saying, but since the team has already declared that it thinks it can win now, and intends to be active in free agency, it’s time that we stop looking at things through these types of lenses.

What I mean is, while it would be ideal for the team to find a young X wide receiver with size, it is probably not likely to happen. So in the meantime, if we think we can win now, signing an older guy to fill that role in the short term may be the move…for better or for worse.

After hearing Loomis’ remarks, I am of the mindset of “What do we have to do to maximize our wins in 2025,” and a Davante Adams would most certainly help in that regard, at the right price.

I disagree for several reasons. First, I think Adams is on the decline. He wasn't the same player last year with the Raiders or the Jets. Second, he seems to be getting injured more often. Third, if we are going to spend what it takes to sign Adams we should spend that money on the DL, at Guard, or at Tackle. Fourth, there are cheaper options in the draft for an X. And, fifth, if you want to spend money on a free agent WR, go get Tee Higgins who would help you this year and in future years.

 

[St. Geezy]

I disagree for several reasons. First, I think Adams is on the decline. He wasn't the same player last year with the Raiders or the Jets. Second, he seems to be getting injured more often. Third, if we are going to spend what it takes to sign Adams we should spend that money on the DL, at Guard, or at Tackle. Fourth, there are cheaper options in the draft for an X. And, fifth, if you want to spend money on a free agent WR, go get Tee Higgins who would help you this year and in future years.

Tee Higgins is going to get a contract in a completely different stratosphere of Adams, don’t you think?

 

[sfidc3]

We gotta get out of this mindset of “You’re only contending if you’re OBVIOUSLY contending.”

Teams catch fire all the time unexpectedly just by putting their best foot forward.

You don’t have to have an obvious 15-2/14-3 roster destined for HFA to be “contending.”

Give your all to field the best team possible, and see where it takes you.

This isn’t directed at you yourself, but I feel sometimes like our only SB team coming on the heels of a 13-0 start has given people a never-ending bad impression of what a contending team has to look like.

Ok.....I don't think we are contending or obviously contending....and I also think given our cap situation it would not be wise to spend oodles of money on a 32 year old WR that will likely be declining in the next few years....

Others may disagree.....that's fine....

 

[St. Widge]

Tee Higgins is going to get a contract in a completely different stratosphere of Adams, don’t you think?

Probably, but I'd rather back load a long term contract for him than pay a premium on a short term deal for an old WR that is declining. There are likely other free agent WRs that would give you close to the same production while also being on the rise that might make even more sense. But, my preference would be to spend that money on the OL and DL. Possibly even at TE if the right free agent is out there since it's likely the only healthy TE we will have to start the season is Holker.

 

[St. Geezy]

I disagree for several reasons. First, I think Adams is on the decline. He wasn't the same player last year with the Raiders or the Jets. Second, he seems to be getting injured more often. Third, if we are going to spend what it takes to sign Adams we should spend that money on the DL, at Guard, or at Tackle. Fourth, there are cheaper options in the draft for an X. And, fifth, if you want to spend money on a free agent WR, go get Tee Higgins who would help you this year and in future years.

I should have included this in my previous reply, so I am sorry for quoting you twice here, however I can't help but wonder what gives you the impression that this player is declining and getting injured more and more often.

He's missed three games in the past four seasons, all last year.

Last year, despite spending some time with a team with no QB, spending time with a new team getting acclimated, and also missing the three games I just pointed out, he still had 85 receptions for 1,063 yards and 8 touchdowns.

Extrapolate that out to a have full 17 games, which is his norm, and that's 103 receptions for 1,290 yards and about 10 touchdowns, all in line with his career averages of 99 receptions for 1,228 yards and 11 touchdowns.

While I do acknowledge that he's likely to start tailing off soon, I still think it is disingenuous to call him a declined player with injury problems that way you've characterized him.

 

[St. Geezy]

Probably, but I'd rather back load a long term contract for him than pay a premium on a short term deal for an old WR that is declining. There are likely other free agent WRs that would give you close to the same production while also being on the rise that might make even more sense. But, my preference would be to spend that money on the OL and DL. Possibly even at TE if the right free agent is out there since it's likely the only healthy TE we will have to start the season is Holker.

Fair enough.

I think there is room available to create for all, but we shall see.

 

[St. Widge]

I should have included this in my previous reply, so I am sorry for quoting you twice here, however I can't help but wonder what gives you the impression that this player is declining and getting injured more and more often.

He's missed three games in the past four seasons, all last year.

Last year, despite spending some time with a team with no QB, spending time with a new team getting acclimated, and also missing the three games I just pointed out, he still had 85 receptions for 1,063 yards and 8 touchdowns.

Extrapolate that out to a have full 17 games, which is his norm, and that's 103 receptions for 1,290 yards and about 10 touchdowns, all in line with his career averages of 99 receptions for 1,228 yards and 11 touchdowns.

While I do acknowledge that he's likely to start tailing off soon, I still think it is disingenuous to call him a declined player with injury problems that way you've characterized him.

The fact that he missed three games in four seasons, all last year makes me think he is getting hurt more often recently.

I think you will just as likely get him in the season he does fall off than that he has one more good year in him.

But the point is that to sign him they would likely have to give him a 2 or 3 year deal for big money with void years added to the end to make it work with the cap this year. It think that's too far out to go on a declining player. If we are giving that kind of deal to a WR, and I don't think we should, we should give it an a little more to Tee Higgins.

And while Loomis indicated they want to be competitive this year, he also talked about being cap conscious. He said the same things last year when he spent very little in free agency and said they were in a soft reset. I don't think Adams fits into that plan.

If Adams comes relatively cheap on a one year deal, sure sign him. But if he wants a multi-year deal for big money, he's not the right player for this team. And, frankly, I don't think Adams is going to take a one year low value deal. If he's going to do that, he's going to do it for a team with a real shot at the Super Bowl. I could see him doing it for the Chargers or maybe San Francisco. Possibly the Rams, but I'm not sure he fits how they do things. Even Washington makes more sense for him on a short low value deal.

And again, if we are going to spend in free agency, it should be on the OL, DL, and TE because that is going to make a bigger impact on wins than the comparative drop off between Adams and other options at WR.

 

[St. Widge]

Fair enough.

I think there is room available to create for all, but we shall see.

Loomis' comments at the Combine do not indicate that he's going all in this year. He will spend more than last year when he spent very, very little, but he's not going to max out the money. He's going to continue on the soft reset path for at least one more year. That means if you sign Adams you probably don't have the money to upgrade on the OL, DL, or at TE.

 

[St. Geezy]

Loomis' comments at the Combine do not indicate that he's going all in this year. He will spend more than last year when he spent very, very little, but he's not going to max out the money. He's going to continue on the soft reset path for at least one more year. That means if you sign Adams you probably don't have the money to upgrade on the OL, DL, or at TE.

I disagree with your take on his comments. When ML takes the time to declare his intentions before FA, specifically saying we will be more active, it means he’s planning a shopping spree IMO.

That’s just how I interpret his words based on his history of usually playing it close to vest.

I think he’s planning to splurge a bit.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

I agree, but I think you’re missing the point here.

Carr will not take a paycut unless MAYBE you can work a deal for Adams. It would accomplish two things which is get Carr to take a paycut, and get an X receiver to take pressure off Olave. I’m not saying sign Adams for multiple years, do a 1 year 10 million or whatever Carr is willing to give up from his salary for him. If DC is not willing to give up any salary, then he doesn’t get Adams, simple as that.

Where is that assumption coming from? Have seen nothing at all to indicate that demand.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

I'm guessing he goes to the Commanders. That team is loading up for a few runs before they have to pay Daniels. Terry, Deebo, and Adams with Daniels and a above average RB is about as scary as they come. Basically Lamar with competent WRs. I'm sure he's probably looking for a ring at this point, anyways. I really don't see the Saints as a likely destination at this point.

Rumors are that Rodgers is considering signing with Giants if they can sign Adams. Could be a possibility.

 

[St. Geezy]

Rumors are that Rodgers is considering signing with Giants if they can sign Adams. Could be a possibility.

Yep, and it was the Rams before the Stafford news happened.

 

[StudioSaint]

You believe he would even consider a 1 year $1.57M salary?

I don't know if Adams would accept it or not. You never know until you offer and I'd be okay with that offer. First things first, Adams has to be released. I wouldn't trade anything for Adams.

 

[StudioSaint]

If Adams' agent seriously pitched that to him, he'd be less one client immediately. Agent gets paid too.

I don't make predictions and I wasn't making a prediction. I was simply stating the maximum pay and contract length under which I'd be okay with the Saints signing Adams.