Loomis Presser Set for Jan 13th (2 Viewers)

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Yep. Baffles my mind that some fans don’t see that.

Definitely wasn’t the case back in the Mora days. They ticked him off daily and he told em about it lol.
Indeed, and it made for some memorable moments with Mora that live forever on YouTube :) Another hilarious one is his tirade after the scrimmage with the Chiefs a few years earlier, in the '92 training camp.

Pressers nowadays are carefully controlled orchestrations, complete with the team's backdrop adorned with whoever the main corporate sponsor is behind the talking head. I'm sure the league prefers it this way, especially during the current era with Goodell as commish. The media itself isn't exactly as hard-nosed with coaches as it once was, either. I don't think Buddy D or any of the T-P's big names of the past would want any part of this circus now.
 
Is this the offseason where Loomis finishes his transformation into Yogi Berra?

Its dejavu all over again.

You can observe a lot by just watching.

I never said most the things I said.

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

I honestly look forward to these because the absolute garbled mess he has to say at this point cant possible make the least bit of sense.

But you know, after the presser, there'll be someone here saying "you know, he is right. The number in the loss column isnt bad if you compare it to the number of cells in the human body".
 
Indeed, and it made for some memorable moments with Mora that live forever on YouTube :) Another hilarious one is his tirade after the scrimmage with the Chiefs a few years earlier, in the '92 training camp.

Pressers nowadays are carefully controlled orchestrations, complete with the team's backdrop adorned with whoever the main corporate sponsor is behind the talking head. I'm sure the league prefers it this way, especially during the current era with Goodell as commish. The media itself isn't exactly as hard-nosed with coaches as it once was, either. I don't think Buddy D or any of the T-P's big names of the past would want any part of this circus now.

I think at a certain point the league became so big and access became so important for these guys and their publications that reporters naturally started becoming more and more careful.

Look at it this way - you’re a guest coming into someone’s house; teams have no legal obligation to allow you into their home and don’t have to take your crap if they don’t want to. Want to be the tough guy pain in the butt reporter every week? Ok great, but guess what, you won’t be getting a credential next time.
 
I think at a certain point the league became so big and access became so important for these guys and their publications that reporters naturally started becoming more and more careful.

Look at it this way - you’re a guest coming into someone’s house; teams have no legal obligation to allow you into their home and don’t have to take your crap if they don’t want to. Want to be the tough guy pain in the butt reporter every week? Ok great, but guess what, you won’t be getting a credential next time.

For what it's worth, it's not like this the vast majority of other markets.
 
For what it's worth, it's not like this the vast majority of other markets.

You sure? I sure don’t seem to see quite as many press conference squabbles as I once did. Used to be almost every other week we saw some headline grabbing press conference outburst. Seems like most reporters are playing nice these days.

We have instant access to these things too now, so if they were happening, we’d know about it quickly. It just doesn’t seem to happen anymore.
 
I think at a certain point the league became so big and access became so important for these guys and their publications that reporters naturally started becoming more and more careful.

Look at it this way - you’re a guest coming into someone’s house; teams have no legal obligation to allow you into their home and don’t have to take your crap if they don’t want to. Want to be the tough guy pain in the butt reporter every week? Ok great, but guess what, you won’t be getting a credential next time.
And as a fan, if I continue to see rosters full of holes and poor leadership overall, ok great, but guess what, I won't be spending money on a ticket to watch that mess :giggle:
 
For what it's worth, it's not like this the vast majority of other markets.

I wouldn’t say vast majority. Your NY’s, Philly, Dallas’ sure. But everywhere in the NFCS is tame. Arizona. Tennessee. Jacksonville. Indy. Green Bay. And plenty others. The NFL is THE cash cow for sports writers. They won’t blow their chances with teams for scoops.
 
Tone was set during the Payton era - ask tough questions or turn yourself into a media heel, and there will be, um, “professional consequences.”

Right or wrong, if you want to maintain your access, don’t make yourself a pain to deal with or create distractions for our environment. And definitely, without question, ever ask about player injuries, because you won’t like my answer.

SP has literally personally called reporters after press conferences or the day after games to scold them about questions they asked.

This is how all professional sports franchises operate now. It's big business and they want to try to control the narrative.

The truth is that the "tough questions" are very seldom going to get answered and if they are answered they are never going to be answered truthfully or to our satisfaction. What fans really want is reporters to express their frustration and extract a pound of flesh by being an butt crevasse to the coach and GM. But that's never going to get the information we want and it's going to cut off access to the people who do have that information. If you lose credentials, you don't have the ability to talk to players, assistant coaches, staff, equipment guys, etc. who might tell you things that he head coach and GM are never going to tell you. Reporters have to have credentials to access that information and they aren't going to get the answers we want from a head coach or a GM.

Basically, reporters are doing the job the best way it can be done but people constantly birch about it.

Of course, there is nothing Loomis could possibly say that would placate this fanbase at this point other than getting up there saying he is resigning because he's a idiot and forked up while introducing Howie Roseman or Brad Holmes as the new GM and committing ritual seppuku live on camera to atone for his sins.
 
Yep. Baffles my mind that some fans don’t see that.

Definitely wasn’t the case back in the Mora days. They ticked him off daily and he told em about it lol.

It baffles me that fans don't know how being a reporter works and how these guys get information. It also baffles me that fans think the guys covering the team are supposed to be the voice of the fans when interviewing coaches, the front office, or players. And we knew nothing about what went on in the locker room in the Mora days. We have vastly more knowledge now.

People just want editorial and hot takes now. ESPN has poisoned the mind of sports fans. They just want their rage expressed to those who caused it.
 
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