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For me I think it was the Numenor plot was just off - I get what you’re saying about Southlands, but at least there was dynamism about character interaction and key plot movement
But I still don’t know what purpose Numenor served (obviously there will be a payoff eventually, but this was season long table setting)
All other stuff I dug
It is table setting. I think instead of doing this in season 2 or later, they planted some seeds. Ar-Pharzon has a desire to exploit middle earth. That will likely be a key trigger later.

Also, He's familiar with Halbrand and has already seen his council to be wise and serving his interests. So, it will make that future corruption easier. And he still has his 'fair' visage.

I think Halbrand was a useful comparison for Galadriel. How she takes that darkness and converts it to want justice. Whereas he is seeking dominion.

Looking back on the reveal, which was pretty well tipped off, you really can see all of the clues pretty obviously. To me, it's always been about that fight for the smith's token.. he was just too brutal. But when Adar first saw him and had terror in his eyes.... you don't get scared like that over any human. I do wonder if that line about taking someone from him was just a lie to divert the truth, or a jab at something he did.

Now, in the books, Galadriel, Elrond, and Gil-Galad don't trust Annatar (and I think eventually Celebrimbor realizes it after he makes the rings), so they never fully fell for it and when Sauron eventually makes his own ring, they felt it and took theirs off immediately. So, in the show, that's mostly shown by Galadriel who starts to piece together that something is off.

Now, I do think one question is that if Halbrand is really Sauron, why did that blade injure him so badly, and how was he healed by Elvish Medicine. But perhaps Maia in human form just are that way?

I don't recall exactly where this is from, but in this One Wiki article on Eonwe, it discusses that Sauron originally asked Eonwe for forgiveness (real or maybe a ploy) and he was told to ask the Valar.

When Morgoth was defeated, Eönwë took the two remaining Silmarils and held them for safekeeping. The two remaining Sons of Fëanor took them and fled, yet Eönwë did not let them be slain, hoping they would see the folly of their ways.[2] After the War of Wrath, Sauron emerged from hiding and approached Eönwë seeking forgiveness, but Eönwë did not have the authority to pardon him alone, and told him he would have to return to the Valar to receive judgment, but Sauron fled from him instead.[3]

So, I think that's a reasonable explanation for why he's out on the sea. Maybe the big monster in the water was their response. Maybe he also saved Galadriel for two reasons.. 1, he did want to corrupt the elves, but 2, maybe in that moment he thought that was the best chance to not be destroyed by that monster.

Overall, I did enjoy the story, minus the compression which just confused me. However, putting that off to the side, I think the story was well done. It doesn't move us fast, but it sets up a world, the main characters, the motives, and answered some mysteries and kept a few others. To me, this is basically like how the Fellowship of the Rings reads... a lot of details, not much motion. It's also similar to Season 1 of Babylon 5, which is one of my favorite shows from back in the day. The first Season was hard to get through, because it was mostly 'questions'.
 
It is table setting. I think instead of doing this in season 2 or later, they planted some seeds. Ar-Pharzon has a desire to exploit middle earth. That will likely be a key trigger later.

Also, He's familiar with Halbrand and has already seen his council to be wise and serving his interests. So, it will make that future corruption easier. And he still has his 'fair' visage.

I think Halbrand was a useful comparison for Galadriel. How she takes that darkness and converts it to want justice. Whereas he is seeking dominion.

Looking back on the reveal, which was pretty well tipped off, you really can see all of the clues pretty obviously. To me, it's always been about that fight for the smith's token.. he was just too brutal. But when Adar first saw him and had terror in his eyes.... you don't get scared like that over any human. I do wonder if that line about taking someone from him was just a lie to divert the truth, or a jab at something he did.

Now, in the books, Galadriel, Elrond, and Gil-Galad don't trust Annatar (and I think eventually Celebrimbor realizes it after he makes the rings), so they never fully fell for it and when Sauron eventually makes his own ring, they felt it and took theirs off immediately. So, in the show, that's mostly shown by Galadriel who starts to piece together that something is off.

Now, I do think one question is that if Halbrand is really Sauron, why did that blade injure him so badly, and how was he healed by Elvish Medicine. But perhaps Maia in human form just are that way?

I don't recall exactly where this is from, but in this One Wiki article on Eonwe, it discusses that Sauron originally asked Eonwe for forgiveness (real or maybe a ploy) and he was told to ask the Valar.



So, I think that's a reasonable explanation for why he's out on the sea. Maybe the big monster in the water was their response. Maybe he also saved Galadriel for two reasons.. 1, he did want to corrupt the elves, but 2, maybe in that moment he thought that was the best chance to not be destroyed by that monster.

Overall, I did enjoy the story, minus the compression which just confused me. However, putting that off to the side, I think the story was well done. It doesn't move us fast, but it sets up a world, the main characters, the motives, and answered some mysteries and kept a few others. To me, this is basically like how the Fellowship of the Rings reads... a lot of details, not much motion. It's also similar to Season 1 of Babylon 5, which is one of my favorite shows from back in the day. The first Season was hard to get through, because it was mostly 'questions'.
There was 2 moments that made me think he was Sauron. The first was when he told Galadriel about giving your enemy the means to conquer something they fear and then you can control them(one ring) and the 2nd was when he asked Adar if he remembered him. That told me that Adar was telling the truth, that he thought he killed Sauron and now Sauron is Halbrand and he wanted to know if Adar knew.
 
i think Sauron really wrestling with wanting to be good is going to be significant to the story
He's Loki. Or Loki is him. He thinks dominion is the way to get the power he craves, but also serves in everyone else's best interests. And (not Loki) He's the greatest craftsman. Everything he creates is amazing, so why wouldn't everyone want his amazing stuff, his way, and his way only?
 
Thanks. I don’t like it, but at least they acknowledge they are going “off script” on the other rings of power.
My guess... This will tie in to the corruption of Numenor. He'll make the rings at their forge, which will also tie into the 'sinking' of Numenor.

The question is if he will also use Mithril or something else. If he uses Mithril, then did he already pocket a fragment, or will that tie into Numenor coming back for round 2? Will he make the One Ring first, but wait to use it, or save it for afterwards? My guess is afterwards.
 
i think Sauron really wrestling with wanting to be good is going to be significant to the story

He's Loki. Or Loki is him. He thinks dominion is the way to get the power he craves, but also serves in everyone else's best interests. And (not Loki) He's the greatest craftsman. Everything he creates is amazing, so why wouldn't everyone want his amazing stuff, his way, and his way only?
Actually, he's Hitler. Nearly everything in the trilogy is an allegory to either WWII or Catholicism, often both. So the way they portrayed Sauron as "wanting to heal Middle Earth" jibes quite well with Tolkien's original intention. After all, Hitler (according to him) was "healing" Europe by purging the non-Aryan races and eliminating all the people with "undesirable" traits or "incurable" health issues.
A whole lot of people bought into that insanity, and not just Germans. Fascism was very popular throughout many European countries, and in truth it took the emergence of Hitler and Mussolini to show them what fascism really is. Of course, a great number of people in Germany, Italy, and Spain still thought it was the right answer right up to the end of the war. Fortunately, the others in those countries and the rest of the world (sans Japan) overpowered them.

Anyway, the series has been interesting, though with obvious canonical difficulties that have pointed out by many so I won't repeat. I have enjoyed some of the characterizations and the actors (and some less), particularly Prince Durin, Elendil, and Elrond.
 
I read The Hobbit and LotR as a kid, and saw the movies, but I never new these 2nd age stories existed. Regardless, I've been enjoying the show. But, I do have one raging question...If Galadriel so wanted Sauron dead, then why didn't she accompany Frodo on his quest?
 
If Galadriel so wanted Sauron dead, then why didn't she accompany Frodo on his quest?
She has a lot of calm to gain between now and then.

If Frodo offered current tRoP Galadriel the one ring she would have taken it to exact her vengence on Sauron, and eradicate the orcs, and probaly then start looking for people with any darkness in their hearts to eliminate... and become a murderous tyrant herself.
 
She has a lot of calm to gain between now and then.

If Frodo offered current tRoP Galadriel the one ring she would have taken it to exact her vengence on Sauron, and eradicate the orcs, and probaly then start looking for people with any darkness in their hearts to eliminate... and become a murderous tyrant herself.
In the movie at least, when Frodo offered her the ring she looked plenty evil to me so it makes sense that she was like this in the RoP.
 
I read The Hobbit and LotR as a kid, and saw the movies, but I never new these 2nd age stories existed. Regardless, I've been enjoying the show. But, I do have one raging question...If Galadriel so wanted Sauron dead, then why didn't she accompany Frodo on his quest?
They're making stuff up.
 
i think Sauron really wrestling with wanting to be good is going to be significant to the story

I dont think it is so much "be good" as wanting to be forgiven... which him being in despair of his situation and desiring an exit is consistent with canon.
I don't think it's either. I think he was saying those things to try to manipulate her and in either way, he succeeds. He either convinces and corrupts his most formidable foe into joining him or she rejects him strengthening her resolve to find the power to destroy him & therefore allowing the forging of the rings not realizing Sauron will have the power to control them through the one ring.
 
I just read that it's being discussed to reboot the series. I doubt it will happen. It appears that LOTR and hobbit fans are excited this might occur.

New Rumor Claims Prime Video To Completely Reboot 'The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power' After Creatively Bankrupt First Season - Bounding Into Comics
 
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I never finished it. I didn’t really care about the characters and their sex or race. I didn’t like the story. It just underwhelmed. Now I didn’t read this book. Tried but I couldn’t. I have read the Hobbit and LotR at least a dozen times and seen the movies several times. They had me from the beginning. This show was boring, the story was hard to follow etc.
 
I just read that it's being discussed to reboot the series. I doubt it will happen. It appears that LOTR and hobbit fans are excited this might occur.

New Rumor Claims Prime Video To Completely Reboot 'The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power' After Creatively Bankrupt First Season - Bounding Into Comics
It's the only way to salvage the franchise.
 

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