Breaking! NFL Black Monday Thread (41 Viewers)

[B4YOU]

Don't be surprised if he skips NoLA.

 

[Elvis]

A reminder that it CAN get worse than Loomis.

 

[St. Widge]

Crazy stuff. We're going to interview about 12 candidates. But we may not be interviewing the top name.

Johnson has his pick of teams, though I wonder if this is just the Patriots looking for leverage on Vrable after Vrable used the Jets as leverage on them. He's not going to take this job because there are open jobs with young QBs that are further along in the rebuilding process than we are. It's possible the Saints contacted his agent and he said Johnson isn't interested in interviewing.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Winston is always the MVP. You just don't know which team it will be for though.

That has always been true...except when Payton was his coach, CSP showed an actual attempt to reign in JW's gunslinger tendencies.

 

[Elvis]

That has always been true...except when Payton was his coach, CSP showed an actual attempt to reign in JW's gunslinger tendencies.

I remember Payton chewing Jameis out for throwing a TD that was a dumb throw. He didn't want gunslinger Jameis and did his best at getting rid of that tendency.

 

[jahsoul357]

Agree that he was benched for tanking reasons. Don't agree that he'd beat the Bengals, maybe, MAYBE the Dolphins.

I just did a quick stat/metric/analytic check while talking to my buddy over Teams.....

Apparently, the Bengals were one of the worst teams against the run, one of the bottom 5 teams in terms of giving up passing TDs, and they had one of the lowest sack rates in the NFL. My buddy just told me that the Browns best game running the ball was against the Bengals but couldn't do nothing in the air and they always play Joe Burrow tough. Like I said, we were the only defense that he faced this season that wasn't a top 10 defense and he torched us; Taysom just happened to go nuts. Our pass defense and I believe our pressure rate is better than the Bengals.

I have to give you credit for sticking with Winston no matter what.

It's less "sticking with him" and moreso talking about the situation. All that was said was Winston was benched so the Browns can tank and people took that and ran with it, not knowing that is exactly what happened. I said nothing about his play or even him. Just the fact that they were competitive playing top 5 defenses and they were coming up on weaker (and declining) defenses, which would have killed any move to get a top 5 pick. It is what it is.

 

[HouseCall]

Underhill seems to think we won’t even interview Ben.

WTF

I don’t think it’s because the Saints don’t want him - I think Underhill is basically saying, there’s no way he’d come for an interview with all the top-tier teams in much better cap condition than us on his heels.

 

[soggymoss84]

 

[Snakehead]

Running it back with Rizzball after he gets a chance to work the personnel and maybe (hopefully) make changes to the DC.

 

[WilliamBrees]

Agree that he was benched for tanking reasons. Don't agree that he'd beat the Bengals, maybe, MAYBE the Dolphins. And I watched football this season. And I'm a Winston supporter but with less confidence than before. My confidence in him took a hit last season against the Lions when Carr got knocked out of the game and Winston was setup to finish a great comeback. At the game, I told my neighbor that Winston will step up and shut up a lot of non-believers. He didn't and looked bad and that was with good protection and open receivers. Still love the guy, but he's had many, many chances. I'd rate him as a low-level, inconsistent starter that flashes and disappoints equally well.

You mean the Vikings?

 

[DaveXA]

I'll say this much, Rizzi was in a no win situation.

That said, we need a new coach, a better coach.

 

[B4YOU]

Jets, Colts, and Raiders seem like obvious teams calling. They are outside top 3 in a 2 QB draft.

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

You mean the Vikings?

This game where we were down 21-0 in the blink of an eye.

Lions 33-28 Saints (Dec 3, 2023) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the Detroit Lions vs. New Orleans Saints NFL game, final score 33-28, from December 3, 2023 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

 

[B4YOU]

Here is the NFL.com tracker for those interested in all the moves today and beyond. The Jets are on the move.

NFL coaching, GM tracker: Latest news, interviews, developments in 2025 hiring cycle

 

[Elvis]

Jets, Colts, and Raiders seem like obvious teams calling. They are outside top 3 in a 2 QB draft.

I'd love to see him and Rattler battle for the starting QB job and ditch Carr and Haener.