Nick Underhill: Players organizing a Players-Only Meeting (8 Viewers)

[504gks]

I don’t take issue with saying DA is failing as a head coach, but he is an excellent play caller.

ous defense is 32nd

 

[SWJJ]

ous defense is 32nd

That happens when you 3 and out on offense every other possession.

 

[SWJJ]

That happens when you 3 and out on offense every other possession.

The defense has been top 10 both other years under Allen.

 

[504gks]

Some players are more important than others, and center is near the top of the list, especially when you’re lacking depth there.

And of course, it’s a whole lot more than 1 player who have been injured. It’s a valid explanation.

McCoy doesnt play defense, and our defense is 32nd. As long as 8 wins and no playoffs makes you happy....

 

[Rouxble]

Bill Wash for instance wasn't the yelling type but he demanded perfection.

He scrutinized every detail, including seemingly irrelevant things like how the receptionist answered the phone. He wanted excellence to be the culture across the entire organization.

 

[St. Widge]

she is an interior decorator

Not anymore. She's a woman worth about $6 billion dollars that is at the head of a banking, car dealership, and sports franchise empire.

And Tom Benson was a car salesman, Robert Craft made and sold newspapers and then razor blades, the Heinz family made and sold ketchup, etc. Even Jerry Jones was a Wildcatter. Lots of people have humble beginning. Doesn't mean they can't run a business.

It's not like any of these people run the day to day operations of their teams outside of Jerry Jones and none of them were "football people" when they bought the teams with the possible exception of Jerry Jones. Dennis Lauscha runs the sports franchise businesses and she has other people running the Benson car dealerships and Benson owned banks.

 

[St. Widge]

inherited vrs worked for money-always a difference

A lot of NFL owners inherited their wealth.

 

[Sun Wukong]

she is an interior decorator

She killed 16 Checkoslovakians?

 

[anoldfan]

Team meeting with no coaches…. Why would this team need that? Super strange

Isn't that what they've been doing all year on the field?

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

Not anymore. She a woman worth about $6 billion dollars that is at the head of a banking, car dealership, and sports franchise empire.

And Tom Benson was a car salesman, Robert Craft made and sold newspapers and then razor blades, the Heinz family made and sold ketchup, etc. Even Jerry Jones was a Wildcatter. Lots of people have humble beginning. Doesn't mean they can't run a business.

It's not like any of these people run the day to day operations of their teams outside of Jerry Jones and none of them were "football people" when they bought the teams with the possible exception of Jerry Jones. Dennis Lauscha runs the sports franchise businesses and she has other people running the Benson car dealerships and Benson owned banks.

Weird how everyone is saying Gayle doesn't care, isn't qualified, blah blah but back when it looked like Rita might end up with the team, everyone was furious and totally supportive of Gayle keeping the team and letting Dennis L. & Mickey L. run the show for the most part. Which is exactly what is happening and now everyone has their pitchforks out saying that she needs to care more, be more involved or the polar opposite and stand down altogether because she 'has no idea what she is doing & unqualified.

It's working as designed and when we were winning, folks were all on board with that structure and now that we are losing; demanding change.
I'm not suggesting that Mickey & Dennis should be let off the hook for anything but this was what the fans asked for.

A good leader doesn't always have to be the subject matter expert in everything. Good leaders know they know they couldn't be and assemble the best possible team around them that helps them see their blind spots and make the right decisions.

 

[Quiet Storm]

My Bulls have done player only meetings the past few years..they've immediately gone out and lost more.

 

[Covington Saint]

people would stroke out if she was yapping on fox 8 interviews 3 times a week blabbing about what's wrong with the team. that's not how to do things. she runs a professional tight ship and keeps it in house.

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

My Bulls have done player only meetings the past few years..they've immediately gone out and lost more.

Your Saints are about to do the same thing LOL

 

[Hedon James]

in your present job, do you look for this same type of environment

an environment where my boss states what the standard is, trains me to that standard, and holds me to it (not just lip service); let's it be known when I fall short that it's unacceptable, but recognizes and praises a job well done; a boss that I truly don't want to disappoint? YES, I look for that type of environment.

I've been in environments where they say all the right things, and it sounds like a great culture to work in; but in reality, they don't practice what they preach. Substandard employees are never disciplined, fired, or even re-trained; they just "lean harder" on the top producers and wear them down to the point they quit, or don't care (quit & stay?). Resulting in an entire team of substandard production, but no one seems to understand WHY.

Honestly, the 1st environment is kind of rare, while the 2nd environment is all too common. After moving on from the 2nd environment too many times over the past 40 years, I finally found the 1st and have been there for 25 years and counting. I expect to continue there until I am of retirement age, possibly even beyond that?

Lots of comments about "bully bosses" since my other post. I don't know where this is coming from....maybe folks interjecting THEIR experiences? My pee-wee coach was no "bully". He was "no nonsense". He was the first coach any of us had to state "what you are doing is unacceptable; and then SHOWING us how to do better." And when we did better, he was the first coach to say "attaboy, I KNEW you could do it." Maybe folks missed the part where I said we LOVED this coach. We feared him, because we didn't want to disappoint him or let down our teammates...no one wants to feel like that. But when you did fail, he didn't "pile on", he simply stated "you need to be better...here, let me show you something" which resulted in a tutoring session. Whether it was hand-placement and leverage for a lineman, or showing a RB how to stiff arm, or how to keep those legs CHURNING until you're on the ground....he TAUGHT. I'm not going to pretend I understand all of the dynamics in play back then, but I'd be willing to bet that the REAL issue was a black coach on a team of mostly white youth. That man was the BEST FB coach i had in 6 years of pee-wee football and I didn't care if he was purple....we were learning things we'd never been taught before, by a man who played football at the professional level (even if he never made the Redskins team), and we were having fun because we were competitive. There's a big difference between looking forward to playing the game to see how you'll do; versus going out there to take your lumps like a man, and get it over with, week after week.

So maybe other folks' experiences were different than mine. I can't dispute that. But don't attribute your experiences to MY coach. He was MY CSP and I was going to make sure I had the right cleats on for coach, and bring the Big Red gum (he was also a gum chewer, and team colors were Red & White, but he called us Big Red). People getting too caught up in the details and missing the forest because of the trees. A coach who inspired you to be the BEST you could be, gave you the tools to do it, made it clear that "now it's on you", and celebrated your victories with you. I'm not talking about W-L records...I'm talking about the individual games within a game. I'm 57 years old, and even though it's 45 years later, he is STILL the best coach I ever had (in ANY sport) and I STILL love that man!

 

[DaveXA]

McCoy doesnt play defense, and our defense is 32nd. As long as 8 wins and no playoffs makes you happy....

And? Would help if the offense would actually score TDs, something they've barely done since week 2.