Ronald Curry interviewed for Saints Offensive Coordinator (1 Viewer)

[meily]

Doesn’t apply for coordinators

but it does "apply"

 

[No2DC]

I'm so surprised.

 

[St. Widge]

Scrapping the entire system doesn't make much sense to me after deeming Carr's 1st year w/ Saints a learning year. Unless you want year 2 to have a similar narrative you potentially build on top of what you already have. Just w/ fresh ideas. I'd welcome either or.

This is a very valid point of view and possibly the best way to go. But, I would still prefer a new OC with a new system. Especially something in the Shanahan/McVay school because while all NFL offenses are complicated, I think that school of offense is easier to learn than most because of the limited formations, puts QBs in a better position to succeed with some easier throws, and several guys have succeeded in that system in year one, i.e. Stafford, Burrow, Purdy, Jake Browning. So, I have some confidence that Carr could break the pattern of learning a new offense in the right system.

That being said, I do hope if they go outside the organization for an OC that they do it because they think he would make a better OC than Curry and not just to make a change for the sake of making a change to please a vocal and unhappy portion of the fanbase.

 

[RJS]

There are allot of new coaching positions out there which means assistant coaches and coordinators will change. Are there any of DA's current staff out interviewing for these open slots or just Curry for an internal promotion?

Curry and Joel Thomas both interviewed for offensive coordinator positions last year and Curry may get some more looks as head coaching jobs get filled.

It's funny, if we were any other fan base we would look at Curry's resume as pretty darn competitive. A Sean Payton protege that had MT as the wide receiver coach for that 2019 season. Was the QB coach that helped get Jameis off to a 5-2 start and navigated that traveshamockery of a 2021 qb room. QB coach in 2022 that helped an old Andy Dalton set a career high in completion percentage. 2023 helped turn around a horrible red zone offense and getting them to 11th in passing yards.

If we were any other group, we would be excited by his hire. The real question for me is, does he have anything else to add or change from the previous system? What's his vision?

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

Kinda makes sense, since DA will be gone after the 2024 season.

 

[SaintsFan75]

Hey, uh, maybe every time a black man is interviewed for any position, someone doesn't have to scream "Rooney Rule". Let's try that.

Maybe, I don't know, maybe those people are actually qualified for the position.

Which is why the "Rooney Rule" is ridiculous. Hire someone for their qualifications, regardless of the color of their skin, not because of it.

 

[msusaintsfan]

It may be the easiest thing to do especially with Allen possibly not making it through the year.

The Saints may have a hard time selling the organization to a candidate if they view Allen as a possible lame duck HC

 

[St. Widge]

Which is why the "Rooney Rule" is ridiculous. Hire someone for their qualifications, regardless of the color of their skin, not because of it.

The purpose of the Rooney Rule was and is not to force anyone to hire anyone. The point is to make sure that minority candidates get interviews for GM and HC positions which was not happening before. It gives those guys a chance to be heard, and a chance to get practice at interviewing. And it doesn't stop them from interviewing whoever else they want or hiring whoever they want. So I don't see any downside other than every time a minority candidate gets an interview, someone will say that it's just a Rooney Rule interview. But what you do see is that since minority candidates have gotten interviews, a lot more teams have chosen to hire minority HCs and minority GMs.

 

[Mamba]

But, I would still prefer a new OC with a new system. Especially something in the Shanahan/McVay school because while all NFL offenses are complicated, I think that school of offense is easier to learn than most because of the limited formations, puts QBs in a better position to succeed with some easier throws, and several guys have succeeded in that system in year one, i.e. Stafford, Burrow, Purdy, Jake Browning. So, I have some confidence that Carr could break the pattern of learning a new offense in the right system.

In Shanahan's system, it's been observed that for some reason it can take QBs a year before they get truly comfortable (Matt Ryan comes to mind, but there may be others I can't think of at the moment).

But McVay's QBs tend to have immediate success in their first year (Goff, Stafford). So there are differences between the two systems (Shanahan's run concepts are particularly distinctive to his tree).

 

[inetnawlins]

Rooney Rule interview.

Doesn’t count if it’s promotion within same organization.

 

[St. Widge]

In Shanahan's system, it's been observed that for some reason it can take QBs a year before they get truly comfortable (Matt Ryan comes to mind, but there may be others I can't think of at the moment).

But McVay's QBs tend to have immediate success in their first year (Goff, Stafford). So there are differences between the two systems (Shanahan's run concepts are particularly distinctive to his tree).

I will say that Purdy stepped right in running Shanahan's system. And, I guess it depends to some extent on if we are talking Kyle or Mike Shanahan. I think Kyle's version is more QB friendly and quicker to learn. I mean, the system has more or less worked no matter who is at QB for them. That being said, I would prefer the McVay version over the Shanahan version.

 

[St. Geezy]

This is a fair assessment IMO.

 

[Rouxble]

I’ll still take Curry over Gruden if it comes down to it.

 

[St. Geezy]

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

The purpose of the Rooney Rule was and is not to force anyone to hire anyone. The point is to make sure that minority candidates get interviews for GM and HC positions which was not happening before. It gives those guys a chance to be heard, and a chance to get practice at interviewing. And it doesn't stop them from interviewing whoever else they want or hiring whoever they want. So I don't see any downside other than every time a minority candidate gets an interview, someone will say that it's just a Rooney Rule interview. But what you do see is that since minority candidates have gotten interviews, a lot more teams have chosen to hire minority HCs and minority GMs.

Rooney Rule is a first cousin to DEI, in my opinion.