Ronald Curry interviewed for Saints Offensive Coordinator (2 Viewers)

[oodank]

I don't think it's Curry that's the issue. He certainly has advantages because of his familiarity with Carr so there would be no learning curve there. The issue is that the Saints need to get more up to date with current NFL offenses, and Curry doesn't do that.

But how do you know that he doesn't have new ideas is my point? Ronald Curry learned from Harbaugh and Payton, how do you know he does not have a playbook of fresh ideas to implement? The passing game implementation improved as the year went on. Ronald Curry is the passing game coordinator/QB coach. The QB looked better as the season went on....
Someone mentioned in another thread that Robinson was passed over by McVay so what would make us think he is ready, if we want to read between the lines?

 

[St. Geezy]

Sorry, not sorry.

Haha, all good man. We all have our days on here.

 

[Mamba]

Haha, all good man. We all have our days on here.

I’m actually quite interested in what people see in Ronald Curry. And TJIAY Jones is a relentless DA-basher on Twitter. It’s fine to do so when DA screws up. But it gets obnoxious when he does so about things that haven’t yet happened.

 

[St. Geezy]

I’m actually quite interested in what people see in Ronald Curry. And TJIAY Jones is a relentless DA-basher on Twitter. It’s fine to do so when DA screws up. But it gets obnoxious when he does so about things that haven’t yet happened.

I honestly want to go external with this hire. It’s time for us to move on from this system altogether.

 

[SaintStephen1]

Hey, uh, maybe every time a black man is interviewed for any position, someone doesn't have to scream "Rooney Rule". Let's try that.

Maybe, I don't know, maybe those people are actually qualified for the position.

Unfortunately this is the result of a discriminatory rule.

 

[livefromDC]

Which is why the "Rooney Rule" is ridiculous. Hire someone for their qualifications, regardless of the color of their skin, not because of it.

You can't hire someone based on their qualifications if you never give them a chance to interview. A black guy never got the chance to be the leading rusher for the LSU tigers in the 60s because they were never given the opportunity, not because none were good enough.

The Rooney Rule gives PoC a chance to interview. That's something the NFL realized was not happening.

 

[SweetT]

Exactly my point on Ronald Curry's resume. It's just as impressive as any of the other potential asst coach candidates being interviewed AND he already has the relationship with Carr. I'm trying to find what makes the majority here believe Curry is not the answer? Other than, 'they worked for Shanahan/McVay' what makes the other candidates more viable?

I will add why I think he shouldn’t be and why I think he should be our new OC.

1.) He’s been with us for a good while now. Either he was never given the chance to shine, he was too quiet about our offense (less input spoken out), or he didn’t fully impress.

2.) He was granted the task of being an OC at the Senior Bowl. They don’t just hand that out to just anyone. So, there’s obviously something about him that says he will be an OC in the NFL at some point.

I don’t put too much stock into point 1 bc that is just a thought and I can not back that up with factual evidence. I can back up point 2 with factual evidence. So, if he does become our new OC, then I will be fine with it. I would hate to see him get a chance and he becomes the fall guy if doesn’t stop chopping wood and get his act together.

 

[gregh]

no promotions from within, we need someone outside the building with a brand new take. no leftovers from pete. period

 

[meily]

I will add why I think he shouldn’t be and why I think he should be our new OC.

1.) He’s been with us for a good while now. Either he was never given the chance to shine, he was too quiet about our offense (less input spoken out), or he didn’t fully impress.

2.) He was granted the task of being an OC at the Senior Bowl. They don’t just hand that out to just anyone. So, there’s obviously something about him that says he will be an OC in the NFL at some point.

I don’t put too much stock into point 1 bc that is just a thought and I can not back that up with factual evidence. I can back up point 2 with factual evidence. So, if he does become our new OC, then I will be fine with it. I would hate to see him get a chance and he becomes the fall guy if doesn’t stop chopping wood and get his act together.

I do not see these as valid reasons.

1.) Your job as the QB Coach is not to design and call plays, so his idea of how to run an offense could be vastly different than that of PC but Curry job is to support and disseminate information to the QB about the best way to execute the offense in terms of what he is seeing out on the field (in the QB room and on the sideline), the Lions of now up for a head coaching gig was the QB coach before Campbell fired the OC and promoted him and he brought his ideas and adjustments to the offense (in season) and their offense has been clicking and top 5 the last two seasons.

2.) Curry (IMHO) was not "tasked" with being the OC at the Senior Bowl it was just and exercise for position coaches to take on a bigger role and what better time to do it than in the offseason teaching and college athletes who are auditioning to become professional athletes, not exactly a ringing endorsement of his capabilities as an OC just an opportunity to hold the call sheet.

Curry should be receiving OC interviews like the rest of these TE, QB coaches and Passing Game Coordinators around the league but he is not, he may not be ready but the Saints think a lot of him as a member of the staff, but not enough to run their offense.

 

[CowtownSaint]

Saints announce hiring of new OC: Cleat Parmichael

 

[Rouxble]

What do you know about Curry that makes you like him?

With all the hype about getting someone new, I would rather the unproven guy than Gruden. It’s not like Gruden was churning out dominant offenses every year when he had Carr, and with no defense they had all the incentive in the world to rack up yards and points.

Curry knows the players, knows the system, and he’s in a position to build his own version of the offense on that foundation without another one year learning curve for Carr. For as much as the McVay/Shanahan system is hyped, that system is constantly evolving to fit changing rosters as well as changes in defensive strategy.

Maybe our offense can experience it’s own evolution if Curry is up for the task, we could possibly pluck a position coach from the right team and elevate them to a pass or run game coordinator to help with integrating new ideas.

 

[State Of Affairs]

Curry getting any interviews outside the Saints?

This! It tells you something when no one is interviewing you in other places…

Another thing is, his tree. So we fire PC cuz, in part, he was running an antiquated offense, what does Curry bring that’s different? He’s been in this system just about his entire career.

 

[No2DC]

This! It tells you something when no one is interviewing you in other places…

Another thing is, his tree. So we fire PC cuz, in part, he was running an antiquated offense, what does Curry bring that’s different? He’s been in this system just about his entire career.

No one was rushing to make Allen an HC again or break the bank for Carr. It's a practice we've mastered.

 

[SweetT]

I do not see these as valid reasons.

1.) Your job as the QB Coach is not to design and call plays, so his idea of how to run an offense could be vastly different than that of PC but Curry job is to support and disseminate information to the QB about the best way to execute the offense in terms of what he is seeing out on the field (in the QB room and on the sideline), the Lions of now up for a head coaching gig was the QB coach before Campbell fired the OC and promoted him and he brought his ideas and adjustments to the offense (in season) and their offense has been clicking and top 5 the last two seasons.

2.) Curry (IMHO) was not "tasked" with being the OC at the Senior Bowl it was just and exercise for position coaches to take on a bigger role and what better time to do it than in the offseason teaching and college athletes who are auditioning to become professional athletes, not exactly a ringing endorsement of his capabilities as an OC just an opportunity to hold the call sheet.

Curry should be receiving OC interviews like the rest of these TE, QB coaches and Passing Game Coordinators around the league but he is not, he may not be ready but the Saints think a lot of him as a member of the staff, but not enough to run their offense.

Regardless if someone is only a position coach, he could alert the OC/HC of some things that he sees that isn’t working. It’s not like he is ordered to keep his mouth shut. Also, Curry is a huge part in the passing game coordination. So, it doesn’t matter if he’s not calling the plays, he is directly linked to our passing game plans every week. Going further, like I said, if the HC can see something in his position coach, when his OC is NOT getting the job done, then there should be no hesitation to get rid of the dead weight, and try something new. We went 30 straight weeks of inept offensive production, yet still didn’t try to make changes, or give someone else a shot. Do you realize that 30 weeks is almost the equivalent of 2 full seasons? was more than willing to die on an outdated system, rather than give Curry the opportunity, as he stated that he was not going to make any changes, and continue to chop wood.
Btw, your downplaying of being an OC at a Senior Bowl is off target. Those slots are set up for teams to get exposure to players, scout players, and gain them experience of actually calling plays. Those OCs typically tend to be names that will be interviewed for potential OC gigs. So let’s not act like it’s some random exercise that has no relevance in their respective careers. Do you know that the Senior Bowl is the nation’s most prestigious college all-star game? Why??? Bc it’s coached by professional coaches.

 

[Saint Greg]

No one was rushing to make Allen an HC again or break the bank for Carr. It's a practice we've mastered.

If we didn't promote Allen, he wouldn't have stayed on as DC. He would've gone to another team.