Ryan Clark Calls Sean Payton a Thug (2 Viewers)

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

We are the victims of Sean Payton’s success. Sean got paid. And we’re stuck with afterbirth lol

Placenta can be quite useful for many things.

 

[Rexman100]

Placenta can be quite useful for many things.

im afraid to ask. are you speaking of adrenachrome?

 

[Rouxble]

I thought the real good coaches cater the scheme to the PLAYERS, not make players FIT what the coach wants to do Sean.

Which is it, objectively?

I’m one who thinks scheme is at times overrated, especially when a team has question marks at OL and QB.

That said, for any given game, you have to game plan around who you have.

Going into the offseason, you’ll probably look for the players that fit what you really want to do.

The Wilson move falls into the second category, Payton would rather open his full playbook with someone who can run it rather than continuing to run a simplified version of it that hasn’t been consistently successful.

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

im afraid to ask. are you speaking of adrenachrome?

No

 

[woohoosaint]

Russ has good numbers, but I never thought that he was a good fit for Payton’s offense.
It just seems that Payton and Russ don't have the same offensive philosophy.

Russ is more of an improvisational QB.

Payton is more of a structured coach.

Oil and water IMO.

 

[sfidc3]

I think ESPN is just angry Sean didn’t pick Dallas.

Imagine how that hack Peter King feels, according to him CSP has been going to Dallas since 2010!!!!!

Honestly, I don't understand all the attention given to this non story.....RW is clearly not the same player, he is in steep decline.....and he was never going to be CSP's QB of the future, just a stopgap.....

 

[jahsoul357]

I thought the real good coaches cater the scheme to the PLAYERS, not make players FIT what the coach wants to do Sean.

Which is it, objectively?

Objectively, Rouxble explained it perfectly

I’m one who thinks scheme is at times overrated, especially when a team has question marks at OL and QB.

That said, for any given game, you have to game plan around who you have.

Going into the offseason, you’ll probably look for the players that fit what you really want to do.

The Wilson move falls into the second category, Payton would rather open his full playbook with someone who can run it rather than continuing to run a simplified version of it that hasn’t been consistently successful.

While I'm one who believes that a QB can't succeed in a bad scheme, we ultimately come down to the same conclusion.

Going through this entire season, it looks like the playbook is still limited. Russ' biggest 2 biggest assets were always his feet and the off schedule plays. They said years ago that Russ no longer wanted to be a part of the run game and wanted to be seen primarily as a passer like Drew, Brady, and Manning. If people don't see that his limitations as a QB is scaling down the playbook, I don't know what to tell them.

 

[texasjefe]

Just a reminder that the Broncos are not taking any money from Russell Wilson, as long as Wilson is not hurt and can pass a physical as of the new contract year in March.

Like Wilson said, they informed him of this potential action many weeks ago and told him to waive the $37M injury guarantee or risk not playing.

Essentially, the Broncos lived with the risk for more weeks than they preferred, because they were winning and beating good teams. But that did not sustain and they just lost at home to the Patriots last week.

Plus, they get a look at Stidham, who played well in the preseason.

 

[TenTwo]

Russell Wilson is locker room cancer. He threw his OL under the bus in Seattle so they ship him to Denver where he does all the “Let’s Ride” cringe stuff and acts like he’s above all his teammates. When no one on your team likes or respects you because you’re a completely self absorbed tool with zero leadership attributes, you’re gonna fail. Which is why he’s perfect for Atlanta. Carr’s leadership has been questionable but I’ll take him ten out of ten times over Russell Wilson.

 

[tak]

Ryan Clark is a race obsessed social justice warrior. He oozes emotional irrationality. I highly doubt he would be saying this if that was a white QB in Denver.
For those that care, yes I'm a black man from north La.

 

[Icon]

So.... exactly what I said? cool...

Except you didn't say any of what I said. You said Payton got rid of him "to show everyone who's boss"......as though Payton would have had the same attitude about it if Horn had 1,200 receiving yards and all the other receivers had like a combined 900.

 

[tak]

Nah, and if there were FAs that wouldn't want to go to his team for that reason, then Sean is better off without them. This “woke” culture is temporary and won’t survive the long term test of the real world. Just win and there won’t be any whiners with hurt feelings.

Exactly. The coaches, GM's and owners need to stop catering to this woke slop. It's social rot that puts delusion and selfishness above real world results.
Either produce and get with the program or get to stepping. Unity in the locker room helps victory on the field. I think Sean Payton realizes the value of that over anyone's thin skin.

 

[feanor70115]

I think at some point.. Sean Payton broke.. then Sean Payton developed an ego... and that ego drives him that in his mind he KNOWS what he wants to make a team thats Superbowl ready.. but he just wants someone to give him everything that he wants.

Example when we had Tom Benson.. he probably said.. hey you get whatever you want and we will make it happen.

somewhere we went from that model to the model of "Money Ball" where we played the numbers.

example.. we couldve had Suh and likely collected that 2nd superbowl.. that Rams team doesnt make it past the Saints without Suh.. and we likely win it all with Suh.
but..... we crunched the numbers and said.. this is what we are going to pay you...

well that model is dead.. and we still think its the model that our organization thrives on.. we picked the wrong head coach and we aren't big dogs in the league anymore..

and the organization just cant accept that our best years are behind us until we can create something new... we arent going anywhere..

we gotta get rid of that model..

Sean Payton is a victim of his own success in which he wont accept his way is the only way the team should go.

Dude. That Rams team only made it past the Saints because the refs carried them. Just like the 49ers before them.
And the Seahawks in between, getting away with holding on every offensive play and PI on every defensive play.
The refs are either corrupt, incompetent, or both and always have been.
Anyway, Payton's having a year like Bill Belichick did when he coached the Browns. Maybe he'll learn from it, maybe he won't, but he's not our problem either way.

 

[Saintman2884]

Russ has good numbers, but I never thought that he was a good fit for Payton’s offense.
It just seems that Payton and Russ don't have the same offensive philosophy.

Russ is more of an improvisational QB.

Payton is more of a structured coach.

Oil and water IMO.

Sean Payton is also not a HC who doesn't like to bend or "tinker" with his offensive philosophy or have the patience to work with talented, skilled, but kind of raw, unconventional, improvisational QB's like Brett Favre, Steve Young were and how Mike Holmgren, and Bill Walsh/George Seifert adapted to their styles and fit them in perfectly within their offensive systems.

 

[woohoosaint]

Sean Payton is also not a HC who doesn't like to bend or "tinker" with his offensive philosophy or have the patience to work with talented, skilled, but kind of raw, unconventional, improvisational QB's like Brett Favre, Steve Young were and how Mike Holmgren, and Bill Walsh/George Seifert adapted to their styles and fit them in perfectly within their offensive systems.

That's what made the Payton/Brees era so great.
The attention to detail and precision of every offensive play