Saints are flying Kafka and Weaver in for 2nd interviews [Interviews completed] (2 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

rational is for wusses.

Is that a Mike Ditka quote? Or a Franz Kafka quote?

 

[St. Widge]

Milroe will be a terror to defend for years to come, like Lamar Jax. He will be that same game breaker we saw in college, in the NFL. The tricky thing for Milroe is finding an NFL coordinator that will run a 55:45 run to pass scheme. He fits perfectly into the Ravens. Theoretically, the Saints could hire Todd Monken and draft Milroe at 9 and we could be the Ravens of the south.

Milroe is an amazing athlete, but I'm not sure he is ever going to be a good enough passer to play QB in the NFL. On the other hand, if you can get him in the middle rounds, and he is willing to do it, he would be a really good fit for the QB Power, Read Option, and HB plays that Taysom Hill runs now. And, maybe he could develop as a pass catcher.

But I think drafting Milroe at #9 would be incredibly risky and a bad idea.

 

[dvdman]

Oh I hope it’s just s smokescreen or whatever.

 

[Rexman100]

Milroe is an amazing athlete, but I'm not sure he is ever going to be a good enough passer to play QB in the NFL. On the other hand, if you can get him in the middle rounds, and he is willing to do it, he would be a really good fit for the QB Power, Read Option, and HB plays that Taysom Hill runs now. And, maybe he could develop as a pass catcher.

But I think drafting Milroe at #9 would be incredibly risky and a bad idea.

Yea it would be risky and irresponsible, i wasn't really expecting anyone to agree. But a lot of people passed on LJ, probably for the same reasons. As an LSU fan, Milroe was a problem, he ran all over us, even knowing he;d run we couldn't stop him. He's NFL special. With that said, id be stoked to pick him up w/ one of our thirds, and use him as a THILL type.

 

[Saint Spud]

I agree that’s not a winning strategy, but I’m basing off the Saints history of drafting QB’s. They did have a chance at drafting a QB high in 2006, but still went the FA route. It worked out great as Brees ended up being a HOF QB and Matt Leinart was a bust, but my point remains that they don’t want to draft a QB high as it isn’t in their strategy.

And the Saints also have the ability to trade up in drafts to go get the guy they like and haven’t done it for a QB, but they have done it for other positions including RB. They also have had the chance at drafting QB’s in the first and second round without trading up. Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love, and Jalen Hurts all had a chance to be a Saint without trading up.

Can’t really base it off history when this FO had an elite QB for the better part of 15 years.

Not to mention, we would’ve drafted Mahomes if the Chiefs hadn’t jumped us and Lattimore had been taken (though I still suspect we would’ve taken Mahomes over Lattimore, despite what has been said).

Our FO isn’t dumb. They know it’s a QB’s league. But we haven’t been in a position to draft an elite prospect there. And reaching for a QB when you don’t love the player can lead to a variety of other problems.

 

[Hubig]

Well, those two satisfy the Rooney rule. Kafka is Puerto Rican.

 

[St. Geezy]

 

[nakadish]

Can’t really base it off history when this FO had an elite QB for the better part of 15 years.

Not to mention, we would’ve drafted Mahomes if the Chiefs hadn’t jumped us and Lattimore had been taken (though I still suspect we would’ve taken Mahomes over Lattimore, despite what has been said).

Our FO isn’t dumb. They know it’s a QB’s league. But we haven’t been in a position to draft an elite prospect there. And reaching for a QB when you don’t love the player can lead to a variety of other problems.

Not to stir the pot, but what if the QB options at 9 are better than the options you currently have, even if it's not elite? I wouldn't discount taking a QB at 9, depending on the HC.

 

[los226]

Can’t really base it off history when this FO had an elite QB for the better part of 15 years.

Not to mention, we would’ve drafted Mahomes if the Chiefs hadn’t jumped us and Lattimore had been taken (though I still suspect we would’ve taken Mahomes over Lattimore, despite what has been said).

Our FO isn’t dumb. They know it’s a QB’s league. But we haven’t been in a position to draft an elite prospect there. And reaching for a QB when you don’t love the player can lead to a variety of other problems.

The organization hasn’t liked one QB since 1971 worthy of trading up to go get? Or even liked enough to just draft a QB in the late first round or second round without trading up?

I find it hard to believe that in 53 years there hasn’t been one guy that they believed was worth drafting in the first or second round. It seems to be by design IMO, but neither you or I know. But the fact remains that they haven’t taken a QB in the first or second round for 53 years and until that changes we as fans need to hope on finding a gem late in the draft or FA.

 

[Saint Spud]

Not to stir the pot, but what if the QB options at 9 are better than the options you currently have, even if it's not elite? I wouldn't discount taking a QB at 9, depending on the HC.

Don’t disagree at all. Look at where Mahomes and Allen were taken.

My point is you can’t force it. If you believe in the player, absolutely.

If Cam Ward is the top QB on our board and inexplicably falls to 9, there’s no way any organization would pass

 

[cwesleyc]

Yea it would be risky and irresponsible, i wasn't really expecting anyone to agree. But a lot of people passed on LJ, probably for the same reasons. As an LSU fan, Milroe was a problem, he ran all over us, even knowing he;d run we couldn't stop him. He's NFL special. With that said, id be stoked to pick him up w/ one of our thirds, and use him as a THILL type.

I think taking a shot on Milroe is our only path to relevance. Draft Milroe in the 2nd or even late first and have someone like McCarthy coach him up. Josh Allen was a terrible passer in college but had elite tools. It's boom or bust, but what do we have to lose?

 

[Saint Spud]

The organization hasn’t liked one QB since 1971 worthy of trading up to go get? Or even liked enough to just draft a QB in the late first round or second round without trading up?

I find it hard to believe that in 53 years there hasn’t been one guy that they believed was worth drafting in the first or second round. It seems to be by design IMO, but neither you or I know. But the fact remains that they haven’t taken a QB in the first or second round for 53 years and until that changes we as fans need to hope on finding a gem late in the draft or FA.

You’re can’t base 2025 based on 1971.

The point is that every organization wants an elite QB and would prefer to draft them. Look at where we have drafted since this regime took over and what our circumstances were. Payton was wrong on Garrett Grayson and right on Mahomes. One was there when we drafted (and the grade met the pick), and another was not.

 

[St. Widge]

Not to stir the pot, but what if the QB options at 9 are better than the options you currently have, even if it's not elite? I wouldn't discount taking a QB at 9, depending on the HC.

If the team or the head coach has a conviction that there is a QB in this draft better than Carr and Rattler, then sure, take him at #9. I don't think that QB is in this draft, but you always take a QB that you think is at least a top 15 QB. Carr is a top 15 QB and even if he is never better than that, you take it over Carr because a young QB would cost significantly less money that you can use to build a better team around them.

 

[St. Widge]

You’re can’t base 2025 based on 1971.

The point is that every organization wants an elite QB and would prefer to draft them. Look at where we have drafted since this regime took over and what our circumstances were. Payton was wrong on Garrett Grayson and right on Mahomes. One was there when we drafted (and the grade met the pick), and another was not.

We also had a chance to draft Love, Jakson, and Hurts. And I think each of them met the value of the pick.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Didn’t need to be in the QB room. Mahomes is one of the rare athletes that is truly blessed by God and was destined to be head/shoulders above the competition, if he put in the work. Dude was making crazy *** throws in college and those throws only got more remarkable in the NFL. He’s insane with accuracy, power, body control, mentality, etc.
If Mahomes was average or just above average his first year starting, then turned a corner his second year starting, then fine, I could see how Kafka gets credit. From the very first game that Mahomes started, he was ripping the NFL a new one and it just continued. That’s credit to the man taking the snaps.

Now let me ask, was Kafka there at TTU with Mahomes???

Mahomes 1st game in the NFL as starter wasn’t spectacular in the least