Saints at the top of Davante Adams’ wish list [Raiders trade Adams to Jets for conditional 3rd ; Jets paying Adams’ entire remaining salary] (2 Viewers)

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

This isn’t accurate. He wanted to be with Carr specifically.

Let’s not forget we are talking about prime Davante Adams here…he was going to get paid no matter where he went and just about any team would have been elated to have him. He very much dictated where he went based on who he was willing to sign with, and that was with one team and one team only, his college BFF Carr’s squad.

LOL LOL LOL , Yeah, because EVERYTHING that somebody writes on the internet is gospel. You don't even post who wrote it SMH

How about from Devante Adams himself?

Or is that not enough to persuade you from your own ridiculous bias? 21:35 LMAO.

 

[St. Geezy]

How about from Devante Adams himself?

Or is that not enough to persuade you from your own ridiculous bias? 21:35 LMAO.

I can’t get the video to play for some reason, but is this from AFTER Carr has left? Of course he will have changed his tune after the fact.

For every obscure reference you have to dig hard to find about him going to Vegas for reasons outside of Carr, 20 can be cited saying the opposite. I honestly can’t believe this is even being debated by anyone.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

I can’t get the video to play for some reason, but is this from AFTER Carr has left? Of course he will have changed his tune after the fact.

For every obscure reference you have to dig hard to find about him going to Vegas for reasons outside of Carr, 20 can be cited saying the opposite. I honestly can’t believe this is even being debated by anyone.

Honestly embarrassing you can hear it directly from Adams that he left the Packers due to them not offering him enough money and that's not good enough for some of y'all.

How can you be so married to your own bias and narratives that your ignore the actual individual directly saying why he left?

It doesn't matter if you can cite one thousand sources as to why he left. None of them matter when Devante Adams himself actually says why.

The mental gymnastics is astonishing.

 

[DaveXA]

I think 3 wks

I hope so, that would be sooner than I expected.

 

[Artifactual]

How many family vacations has Adams taken with Rodgers?



Probably not a fair question. Rodgers has no bonded family and doesn't associate with those that have matching DNA to him. Kinda Weird! But to each his own.

 

[DaveXA]

Honestly embarrassing you can hear it directly from Adams that he left the Packers due to them not offering him enough money and that's not good enough for some of y'all.

How can you be so married to your own bias and narratives that your ignore the actual individual directly saying why he left?

It doesn't matter if you can cite one thousand sources as to why he left. None of them matter when Devante Adams himself actually says why.

The mental gymnastics is astonishing.

You do realize both can be true? He's on record saying he wanted to go play with Carr with the Raiders. And it was widely reported as well. At the time. I'm not gonna do much digging but here's the first thing I found. Quote from the article. Mental gymnastics? Smh.

The whole reason Adams agreed to leave the Packers for the Raiders was to go from Rodgers to Carr, his good long-time friend and college QB from Fresno State. Adams and Carr played just season together in Las Vegas under offensive-minded coach Josh McDaniels in 2022.

Davante Adams trade rumors: Why Saints are favored to deal for Raiders WR over Chiefs, Ravens | Sporting News

Davante Adams wants to be traded from the Raiders, and has a short list of desired teams. Here's why the Saints have pulled away from the rest of the field.

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[sfidc3]

SMH. If (and I don't think they are ) the Bucs and ATL are closer RIGHT NOW , it is only due to the mega amount of injuries we have at the moment
Again, even with all our injuries on O we had the lead with 2min or less in BOTH games. Not ONE of our injuries are season ending. EVERYONE should be back no longer than 3 wks. Yes we have needs on the OL and a pass rusher but neither are more important than a game changing pass catcher that can get open and make the contested catch. The difference between a 2nd and 3rd rd pick is very little. Plus we'd still have our 1st and 3rd rd picks to address the OL and pass rusher. But I guess you just want to waste the final 2-3 yrs of AK ,Demario , HB , and Taysom

Hard disagree, WR is a need but no more important than the other needs on both lines….it seems no teams are willing to give up a 2nd round pick for an expensive 32 year old WR which makes total sense to me. I’ve never in my entire life heard that the difference between a 2nd and 3rd round pick is “very little”…..so A for originality on that one…..

 

[Stinkers]

Why do people keep saying he left the Packers only because he wanted more money?
Sure, he had a contract milestone coming up and he was unsure if the Packers were going to pay it... but the main reason he left Green Bay was because of the uncertainty about Rodgers returning. There were already rumblings about how many years Rodgers had left in him, and they had a 1st Round pick Jordan Love sitting on the bench, waiting his turn. Davante didn't want to start over with a new QB and possibly new system.
He left for Derek Carr, and familiarity. They are good buddies off the field too, their families vacation together, and their kids are all about the same age. Since they were both elected to Pro Bowls several times, they had informal chats about "what if" they were on the same team again.
Everything fell into place, he got traded, and they had a great year together (100 catches, about 1550 yards, 14 or 15 TDs) but the egotistical d-bag Josh McDumbarse didn't like the fact that Carr kept audibling out of his plays, and that his own plays were more successful than the ones Josh had called. His ego couldn't handle that, so he shipped Carr out of town for "his guy" Jimmy G.... who led the NFL in interceptions, even while missing 1-2 games with injuries, until he was finally benched and Josh was fired so yeah, great decision there...

 

[soggymoss84]

We do not owe those players anything but our appreciation. They get paid ridiculous amounts of money to play a kids game and have all played well and not won it all because it's hard to win it all. But there is zero reason to go all in for those guys and harm the teams ability to get better in the future. Whether it's making the cap worse than it already is or trading away desperately needed draft picks, it just isn't worth it while on a 3 game losing streak and having a backup offensive line and QB for the time being. If we were playing great all around and needed just one piece to really solidify the team, that would be something else. But that's not what this team is.

We owe it to them to not waste the 1-3 years they have left in the league. We cannot trade them due to the dead cap hits, so we are better off as a team and for them to do everything possible to try to compete. Also I feel like y’all are not taking into account how much a WR like Adams takes pressure off the QB and O-line. Being able to make tough catches over the middle on quick routes takes pressure off everyone.

I don't understand why you would want to burn a 2nd rounder with the thought that we may just cut him at the end of the season. A 2nd rounder for maybe 10-11 games seems steep

You burn it to see if you can make one final effort to give the fans and players a chance to compete before saying it’s time to start a rebuild. Now the rebuild may not be a bad rebuild depending on how well Spence plays, then you just need to nail the coaching staff. We have young talent in alot of areas, the biggest hurdle would be clearing the cap sheets and getting into the positive.

Down with the 1st part , don't agree with the 2nd. Do that and we not only waste the rest of AK, Demario,HB, and Taysom's career but we're in for a 4-5yr rebuild and that's IF we get the right hire and hit in the draft

My idea of it is if it doesn’t work HB, Davis and Cam likely decide to retire. Kamara will probably decide he would prefer a change of scenery, so we would have a bunch of dead cap money we would be navigating.

If it does work and we make the playoffs and win a game or two, then absolutely keep Adams and Kamara and go for it for another season.

 

[sammymvpknight]

A key comment in that tweet - The sentiment now is that interest is contingent on Adams’ current evaluations of his prospect teams given the outcome of Week 5 games.

What’s crazy is that the Saints are still the best landing spot out of the Steelers and Jets in spite of being 2-3 and without Carr for a few weeks. Fields sucks as a passer. Rodgers is washed and they just fired their coach.

 

[jayd265]

2024 koolaid
2023 foskey
2022 taylor
2021 werner
2020 none
2019 mccoy

last 5 saints 2nd round picks, i'm actually surprised the 2nd round picks have been that good. minus foskey.

 

[Waymer]

What if we did something like this…

Saints receive: Devante Adams + 2025 fourth round pick, significant cash assistance from Raiders

Raiders receive: 2025 third round pick that becomes a second round pick if Adams is on the roster after March 15th (or any arbitrary date after the league year begins)

So the NFL doesn't allow you to trade "cash considerations" the way other leagues do. That would be the only caveat to any deal.

With that said, there is one way around it, which would be for a player to convert base salary into a signing bonus before a trade, which would accelerate the cap hit onto the current team's cap that season (as well as actual cash paid). I can't remember if I've seen that or not in the NFL specifically, but it is an option.

 

[Elvis]

Want something for almost nothing much do you? While they are at it make them trade Crosby for Turner LOL

No, that's the point. What they are asking for I'm not interested in paying. I think this is a pointless trade that sets the team back long term. Some of you are holding onto hope for this season despite the fact that half of our starting offense is injured. I know guys are going to come back, but the slide has already begun. Even when they come back, it's going to be shaky for a while. If they get desperate to move him and want to make concessions then a 4th and they eat the money is what I think it's worth for a rental.

 

[Elvis]

We owe it to them to not waste the 1-3 years they have left in the league. We cannot trade them due to the dead cap hits, so we are better off as a team and for them to do everything possible to try to compete. Also I feel like y’all are not taking into account how much a WR like Adams takes pressure off the QB and O-line. Being able to make tough catches over the middle on quick routes takes pressure off everyone.

Those guys are not like Drew Brees. They are not guys you sell your future to give one last shot at a title for, especially with the team in it's current state. They are nice pieces that have played well and been great team guys, but none are once in a generation players that you sell the farm for.

And you're right, I'm not taking into account that Adams will take pressure off the OL and QB because I don't think he will. We aren't even throwing over the middle unless it's deep because the line is beat right at the snap. Most of our passes are going to the outside again, just like last year. Once McCoy went down the offense folded and unless Adams is a better center than what we have, he's not doing anything over the middle.

 

[DaveXA]

No, that's the point. What they are asking for I'm not interested in paying. I think this is a pointless trade that sets the team back long term. Some of you are holding onto hope for this season despite the fact that half of our starting offense is injured. I know guys are going to come back, but the slide has already begun. Even when they come back, it's going to be shaky for a while. If they get desperate to move him and want to make concessions then a 4th and they eat the money is what I think it's worth for a rental.

Yeah, we really aren't that far apart. I'm a little more optimistic they can make it work. Might well not work, but sometimes it's worth a shot. And I agree around a 3rd or 4th with the Raiders eating a good portion of this year's salary would be what it takes. Raiders won't like it, but their options are actually limited. Really only two for them, keep Adams and cut him after the season and get nothing, or trade him now and pay a portion of the salary to send him somewhere for a draft pick. There really aren't any other options that I'm aware of.

Loomis has plenty of leverage. There's no need to overpay for Adams. It's pretty simple, if he doesn't feel like the numbers make sense, he can walk away. We're not that desperate to get him imo. Adams would definitely help, but it's not gonna wreck our season any worse if it doesn't happen.

And there may be other options that come up, like Cooper being a possible target. There's still plenty of time to make something happen before the trade deadline. Heck, for all we know, we could trade a player away for some draft picks. Who knows?