Saints at the top of Davante Adams’ wish list [Raiders trade Adams to Jets for conditional 3rd ; Jets paying Adams’ entire remaining salary] (1 Viewer)

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St. Widge said:
Oh, we could have afforded it but we would have had to have done some really dumb things with older players to make it work. Things they should not be doing these days. It was worth it with prime Brees and some can kicking to keep good young players makes sense, but this thing where they extend 30 plus year-old players and then add void years that go well into their 30s has to stop now. We aren't in a Championship window now and we shouldn't act like we are.

What we need to do is get back closer to cap compliant, or well under it, so that if Rattler is the guy, or we find another QB who is the guy, we will have the money and draft picks to build a team around them. Loomis started that process 3 years ago but it has been slow and slowed greatly by the Carr contract. But it needs to be accelerated now. I'm not talking about tearing it all down, but I do think it means walking away from Jordan, Davis, Lattimore, Adebo, and Kamara. It also likely means you don't take the chance on signing Olave to a new deal due to his concussion history and you have to look at whether Mathieu's contract is worth it on this team.

I think they also need to see if there is a way to move on from Carr if Rattler turns out to be good.
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Agree on a lot of that. You play those salary cap games for a franchise QB, especially a HOFer in good condition. But that’s about it. Belichick had that one down pat. Other than signing Randy Moss, they kept surrounding Brady with affordable young talent.
 
St. Geezy said:
I agree. This is a major junction point for our season, both psychologically and math wise.

If we lose this game, at home, a fifth straight, I am not sure we recover. We're probably looking at a 5-12 type campaign.
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Depends. You are probably right. But if we lose Thursday without Olave, Shaheed, Taysom, and half the OL and then we get them all back in a week or two, we might see a spark. Might.

Despite the animosity on this board toward DA, I think the team wants him to succeed.
 
Clintonrebel said:
Agree on a lot of that. You play those salary cap games for a franchise QB, especially a HOFer in good condition. But that’s about it. Belichick had that one down pat. Other than signing Randy Moss, they kept surrounding Brady with affordable young talent.
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I.think they had Moss for pretty cheap Salary for what his abilities were. I dont even think.they really paid Welker much or Edelman
 
Clintonrebel said:
Depends. You are probably right. But if we lose Thursday without Olave, Shaheed, Taysom, and half the OL and then we get them all back in a week or two, we might see a spark. Might.

Despite the animosity on this board toward DA, I think the team wants him to succeed.
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We all want him to succeed, seriously, but 3 years in and it sure feels like we really haven't gained much ground.

I would love to see the team dig deep and try to pull out a win against our former coach. I think they have pride enough to recognize how bad the second half of the Bucs game looked and hope that's motivation to do better.

We'll see.
 
jasonsw said:
I.think they had Moss for pretty cheap Salary for what his abilities were. I dont even think.they really paid Welker much or Edelman
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Benjarvis Green Ellis had a great run in New England. Undrafted out of Ole Miss. 1,000 yard rusher in year 3 for Patriots. Let him walk after his rookie deal. Load up on cheap young guys and stock pile draft picks. It works as long as you have the franchise QB.
 
SigFreudianSlip said:
So thankful we dodged that.

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Like we are not a dysfunctional organization right now? At least his buddy is calling the shots in NY...Aaron.

No way would I have come here if I was Devante. You have a lame duck coach, aging defense, and an organization headed in the wrong direction.

Who would want to come play for DA?
 
Cajun Chat said:
Like we are not a dysfunctional organization right now? At least his buddy is calling the shots in NY...Aaron.

No way would I have come here if I was Devante. You have a lame duck coach, aging defense, and an organization headed in the wrong direction.

Who would want to come play for DA?
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Oh yeah I wasn’t saying we’re in a better spot, or making fun of the Jets. I’m a Jets fan. Both of my teams suck. lol I just thought it was funny.
 


Well that won’t escalate to a 2nd lol.

“The Raiders are getting a conditional third-round pick that can become a second-round pick in return for the star wide receiver, according to ESPN. The Jets are assuming all of Adams’ contract according to ESPN.

The conditions to make the pick a second-rounder are difficult to attain.”
 
From Yahoo!:

  • Advice: After he passed a physical earlier Tuesday, Adams officially joined the Jets, who acquired the six-time Pro Bowl wideout from the Raiders in exchange for a 2025 conditional third-round draft pick. Adams had missed the Raiders' last three games with the hamstring injury, but if he's able to resume practicing during the upcoming week without any major restrictions, the Jets likely won't hesitate to include him in the game plan for Sunday. The addition of Adams provides quarterback Aaron Rodgers with a familiar option in the passing game -- the two spent eight seasons together in Green Bay -- and should also help lessen the burden on emerging third-year receiver Garrett Wilson, who had been targeted on 37 percent of Rodgers' pass attempts over the past two weeks. Shortly after the trade was finalized, Schefter relayed that Adams reworked his contract to lower his salary number to $3.21 million for 2024, and his deal includes voidable years in 2025 and 2026. Adams and the Jets will thus wait and see how the remainder of the season plays out before he meets with management again in the offseason to discuss his future in New York.
 
Crawdaddys said:
From Yahoo!:

  • Advice: After he passed a physical earlier Tuesday, Adams officially joined the Jets, who acquired the six-time Pro Bowl wideout from the Raiders in exchange for a 2025 conditional third-round draft pick. Adams had missed the Raiders' last three games with the hamstring injury, but if he's able to resume practicing during the upcoming week without any major restrictions, the Jets likely won't hesitate to include him in the game plan for Sunday. The addition of Adams provides quarterback Aaron Rodgers with a familiar option in the passing game -- the two spent eight seasons together in Green Bay -- and should also help lessen the burden on emerging third-year receiver Garrett Wilson, who had been targeted on 37 percent of Rodgers' pass attempts over the past two weeks. Shortly after the trade was finalized, Schefter relayed that Adams reworked his contract to lower his salary number to $3.21 million for 2024, and his deal includes voidable years in 2025 and 2026. Adams and the Jets will thus wait and see how the remainder of the season plays out before he meets with management again in the offseason to discuss his future in New York.
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Looks like all the panic about his 2025/26 cap numbers was unnecessary, this reads like he is on a true one year deal in New York with the team having first option to resign him before he hits free agency.
 
Crawdaddys said:
From Yahoo!:

  • Advice: After he passed a physical earlier Tuesday, Adams officially joined the Jets, who acquired the six-time Pro Bowl wideout from the Raiders in exchange for a 2025 conditional third-round draft pick. Adams had missed the Raiders' last three games with the hamstring injury, but if he's able to resume practicing during the upcoming week without any major restrictions, the Jets likely won't hesitate to include him in the game plan for Sunday. The addition of Adams provides quarterback Aaron Rodgers with a familiar option in the passing game -- the two spent eight seasons together in Green Bay -- and should also help lessen the burden on emerging third-year receiver Garrett Wilson, who had been targeted on 37 percent of Rodgers' pass attempts over the past two weeks. Shortly after the trade was finalized, Schefter relayed that Adams reworked his contract to lower his salary number to $3.21 million for 2024, and his deal includes voidable years in 2025 and 2026. Adams and the Jets will thus wait and see how the remainder of the season plays out before he meets with management again in the offseason to discuss his future in New York.
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So Davante Adams will be our big free agent signing in 2025…cool.
 
Rouxble said:
Looks like all the panic about his 2025/26 cap numbers was unnecessary, this reads like he is on a true one year deal in New York with the team having first option to resign him before he hits free agency.
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Indeed. It was never a contract/$ issue. The bellyaching about his contract was never warranted. And most likely the team and player came to an understanding of what would happen well before the trade was finalized. And interestingly enough, even though the Raiders didn't eat any of this year's salary, the rework allowed the Jets to push those dollars into the voidable years, so cutting him after this season doesn't hurt the Jets.

All that said, it's entirely possible the Adams to Saints talk was a ruse to get the Jets to agree to the conditional pick and Adams wasn't angling for the Saints as much as showing the Jets there was competition for his services.

Either way, it's water under the bridge at this point and I'm relieved we didn't give up a 3rd for him.
 

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