Article Saints Execs love Spencer Rattler per ESPN’s Matt Miller (10 Viewers)

[nakadish]

I would take a lot of restructures and cutting things really close between March 12 and June 1 if we were to use a June 1st designation on Carr, but it is the right thing to do with this team at this time. While we would not be able to sign free agents right away, we would be able to "come to terms" with them while the formal signings would occur after June 1. Same with all of the draft picks. The rest of the bandaid would get ripped off in 2026 and we'd be clear for the 2027 off season. I hope this is what Moore wants and what Loomis delivers.

Maybe. But maybe Moore and the FO want to win, and Carr gives them the best chance of doing that. I'm good either way, but I wouldn't be surprised if Carr is the starting QB next season.

 

[Steve in Colorado]

I think Rattler should definitely be in the conversation, but the Saints have to figure out what to do with Carr. The best bet would be to trade him and get some help with that salary.

My dream scenario would be to trade Carr, get Joe Milton for a 4th round pick and take a flyer on Kyle McCord in the draft. Then, have the three of those guys fight it out in training camp.

 

[St. Widge]

Maybe. But maybe Moore and the FO want to win, and Carr gives them the best chance of doing that. I'm good either way, but I wouldn't be surprised if Carr is the starting QB next season.

I wouldn't be surprised if Carr started next year either and I think he likely will, but there are reports that the Saints told Moore they would be patient with him as HC and let him build the team he wants over time. So, there may not be pressure to win next year. Given Carr's age he's not likely to be here past 2 years if not past 1 more year. Given that, Moore may want to move on this year and find out what Rattler has to see if he needs to draft a QB in the next draft. That is assuming they don't take a QB in the draft this year.

 

[nakadish]

I wouldn't be surprised if Carr started next year either and I think he likely will, but there are reports that the Saints told Moore they would be patient with him as HC and let him build the team he wants over time. So, there may not be pressure to win next year. Given Carr's age he's not likely to be hear past 2 years if not past 1 more year. Given that, Moore may want to move on this year and find out what Rattler has to see if he needs to draft a QB in the next draft. That is assuming they don't take a QB in the draft this year.

I honestly don't think Rattler is part of the equation. I could see the Saints picking up Jeanty and having a top 10 running game this season. And if you combine that with Carr, the Saints are a lot better in 2025 then anyone expected. I think Moore drafts a QB in the later rounds and lets him sit behind Carr. Maybe Rattler beats the draft pick out, but I don't think Rattler impacts the draft at all.

 

[Elvis]

I honestly don't think Rattler is part of the equation. I could see the Saints picking up Jeanty and having a top 10 running game this season. And if you combine that with Carr, the Saints are a lot better in 2025 then anyone expected. I think Moore drafts a QB in the later rounds and lets him sit behind Carr. Maybe Rattler beats the draft pick out, but I don't think Rattler impacts the draft at all.

Sorry, that's just delusional. Jeanty isn't the answer for a team whose best player is already their running back. There are holes everywhere on this team. QB1 is a giant question mark. WR1 and TE1 are vacant positions. The O Line was awful in 2024 with huge needs at guard. On defense, DE was already questionable at best and we're likely to lose Young, need another DT next to Breese, traded our best corner in Latt and will probably lose Adebo in free agency, and our starting safety and linebacker are old. What we do have is an RB1 and promising RB2, and you want to get another one?

 

[nakadish]

Sorry, that's just delusional. Jeanty isn't the answer for a team whose best player is already their running back. There are holes everywhere on this team. QB1 is a giant question mark. WR1 and TE1 are vacant positions. The O Line was awful in 2024 with huge needs at guard. On defense, DE was already questionable at best and we're likely to lose Young, need another DT next to Breese, traded our best corner in Latt and will probably lose Adebo in free agency, and our starting safety and linebacker are old. What we do have is an RB1 and promising RB2, and you want to get another one?

RB1 is 30 years old. And I'm not expecting more than 2 or 3 games out of RB2. He's not part of the equation at all. Yes, RB is a huge need. And they have a chance to get a good one. On O-line, the Saints need better depth, but the same starting O-line as last year, expect maybe LG isn't the worst thing. I'd hardly call that a huge need. Backup O-line? Yes, that's a huge need.

And, yes, the Saints have needs everywhere. But with Jeanty and Kamara, with Miller as RB3, they could have a very good run game. I would definitely take that.

 

[Rexman100]

It seemed to me that Derek Carr sat out more games than his injury should’ve benched him. It reminds me of when he was at the raiders and they benched him. I wonder if it’s been decided 3/4 thru the season, that we intend to move on from him. Why would QB1 allow QB2 to gain experience at his expense? Sure we were out of it, but if Carr continued to put up great numbers and a few wins, it would’ve benefited his future with the Saints or other teams.

 

[St. Widge]

I honestly don't think Rattler is part of the equation. I could see the Saints picking up Jeanty and having a top 10 running game this season. And if you combine that with Carr, the Saints are a lot better in 2025 then anyone expected. I think Moore drafts a QB in the later rounds and lets him sit behind Carr. Maybe Rattler beats the draft pick out, but I don't think Rattler impacts the draft at all.

The entire point of this thread is that Rattler is part of the equation. Some in the Saints front office really like him. Will that stop them from drafting a QB? Probably not, but that really depends on how good Moore and the front office think Rattler is. They aren't going to draft a QB that they think isn't as good as Rattler.

Jeanty is not going to instantly get you a top 10 running game this season. We don't have the OL for that and I don't think he's a generational talent. He lacks the quickness and top end speed to be a generational RB and it's not clear that he will be able to break tackles in the NFL the way he did against Mountain West defenses and that is he true skill. He's a very good RB, but he's not Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk, or LT. He's not even Saquan or Bijan Robinson.

 

[DSnfla]

I honestly don't think Rattler is part of the equation. I could see the Saints picking up Jeanty and having a top 10 running game this season. And if you combine that with Carr, the Saints are a lot better in 2025 then anyone expected. I think Moore drafts a QB in the later rounds and lets him sit behind Carr. Maybe Rattler beats the draft pick out, but I don't think Rattler impacts the draft at all.

We could have a top 10 running game this yr without Jeanty. We more than likely would have had one this yr with AK if the OL had stayed healthy. We were well on our way in the 1st 4 games we had almost 600 rushing yds and then the OL got decimated by injuries. I don't think we need a Jeanty to be a very good rushing team, especially if Miller can stay healthy

 

[donato]

I can't imagine Rattler ever being a very successful starter. Stranger things have happened though. That being said, if you can move Carr you should. The franchise QB isn't currently on this team.

 

[DSnfla]

Sorry, that's just delusional. Jeanty isn't the answer for a team whose best player is already their running back. There are holes everywhere on this team. QB1 is a giant question mark. WR1 and TE1 are vacant positions. The O Line was awful in 2024 with huge needs at guard. On defense, DE was already questionable at best and we're likely to lose Young, need another DT next to Breese, traded our best corner in Latt and will probably lose Adebo in free agency, and our starting safety and linebacker are old. What we do have is an RB1 and promising RB2, and you want to get another one?

I agree with the Jeanty part , but the only reason we had some OL struggles is due to injury. In the 1st 4 games we avg almost 150 yds rushing a game. Yes we need an upgrade @ LG and we can address that in FA. I think it's way more likely that Adebo stays than goes especially if we get Staley as DC
A yr of Taylor exclusively on the outside and he'll be much better. Adebo, Taylor and McKinstry give us a very good nucleus. Add a good slot guy and we're fine.

Yes to a run stuffing DT and an edge guy

 

[UFCSaint]

I think Rattler should definitely be in the conversation, but the Saints have to figure out what to do with Carr. The best bet would be to trade him and get some help with that salary.

My dream scenario would be to trade Carr, get Joe Milton for a 4th round pick and take a flyer on Kyle McCord in the draft. Then, have the three of those guys fight it out in training camp.

You lost me at Milton

 

[Jesse Custer]

Add a good slot guy and we're fine.

Mukuba in the third if he's there?

 

[webster]

I honestly don't think Rattler is part of the equation. I could see the Saints picking up Jeanty and having a top 10 running game this season. And if you combine that with Carr, the Saints are a lot better in 2025 then anyone expected. I think Moore drafts a QB in the later rounds and lets him sit behind Carr. Maybe Rattler beats the draft pick out, but I don't think Rattler impacts the draft at all.

I agree any new coach isn’t counting on Rattler to be the first or second string option. He may get a chance to compete for a third string spot against another young qb which may be Haener or a draft pick.

 

[DSnfla]

RB1 is 30 years old. And I'm not expecting more than 2 or 3 games out of RB2. He's not part of the equation at all. Yes, RB is a huge need. And they have a chance to get a good one. On O-line, the Saints need better depth, but the same starting O-line as last year, expect maybe LG isn't the worst thing. I'd hardly call that a huge need. Backup O-line? Yes, that's a huge need.

And, yes, the Saints have needs everywhere. But with Jeanty and Kamara, with Miller as RB3, they could have a very good run game. I would definitely take that.

Yes AK will be 30 at the season's start. but Henry is 31 and has a lot more milage on him , you think Balt is saying we need to draft a RB @ 9?. Plus AK takes tremendous care of himself, he just had his best yr running the football in just 14 games
Coaches and the FO staff do not go into the draft expecting a 3rd yr player to be hurt. That's worse than drafting strictly for need. Yes you are aware of it but you don't let it dictate your draft