Saints released Michael Thomas per Duncan; Thomas & Winston are Post-June 1 cuts (1 Viewer)

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cygnus_ltb said:
Heck Jerry Rice became the best receiver to ever play running 3 routes, an out, a slant and a post. Randy Moss made a living with the go pattern and jump ball. I'm no way comparing MT but I don't have a problem with his perfecting just a couple routes in the Payton system. He was the best at his position for one year. Its too bad the rest of his career after that season was marred by injuries, and now by his social media posts.
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True dat.

To your last I think he's probably always been high maintenance and tough to handle off the field, now the juice just isn't worth the squeeze.
 
SonOfNOLA said:
MT said Duncan’s a mouthpiece for the Saints because he sees fans on saints twitter, and possibly a forum or agent, regurgitate that he’s a mouthpiece for the team. That sums up the narrative towards Duncan. One person starts labeling him something or perceiving him a certain way because of personal contempt. Then it’s adopted by another person, then extended to a group, and becomes accepted through numbers with no substantial reason. It just looks like pure hate to have something to gripe about. Everyone’s entitled to feel how they feel but the examples of why is pretty ridiculous.

Like the book title you mentioned. The Saints became closely associated with bagheads when Saints fans faithfully wore bags on their heads at games during 4 sloppy losing seasons with Ditka and Mora, 7 straight losing seasons overall in the 90s. Then the team started to consistently win with Payton and won a SB. Saints fans were seen as the baghead fans in the media because of the Ditka era until Payton arrived. I can see how bags to riches could describe Saints fans feelings going from rooting for terrible-below average Saints teams, for a decade+, to rooting for one of the perennial top teams in the league. They went from being a bottom franchise to one of the most respected teams. I don’t think just having the word bags in the title means wearing paperbags was being highlighted in a disrespectful or embarrassing way. It could factually describe what fans and the team were doing or where they were at before becoming a winner. But if we’re looking for something wrong, we’ll find something wrong. We’ve already convinced ourselves beforehand.

Duncan’s job covering the Saints ties himself to the team no different than Rod Walker, Kat Terrell, John Hendrix, or Underhill. NOLA .com writers like Walker, Duncan and Luke Johnson actually covers other college and pro sports teams in the city and state and don’t necessarily have to rely on covering the Saints like other Saints reporters. Underhill is independent. But NOF’s existence is based on having access or attaching/tying themselves to the pro football team in N.O. Underhill said himself that he pays for camera access in the locker room and likely other access. Every Saints reporter are all in the same boat just doing their jobs. They cover the team differently from one another with their own styles. But they’re columnists and reporters covering the team. Some are more impartial than others
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I agree that Duncan is not a mouthpiece of the team. He often reports what they say, but that's a reporter's job.

But, Duncan is a hoe. :) I had issues with him before he decided to take the side of the NFL on Bounty Gate to drum up his own name recognition and he has continued to basically troll Saints fans every chance he gets. Beyond that, I don't find him particularly insightful about the game. He's really a horse racing guy trying to cover the Saints.

Beyond that, he once came here under the name "Scooter" and started posting things without revealing that he was Jeff Duncan. Just left a bad taste in my mouth.
 
St. Widge said:
I agree that Duncan is not a mouthpiece of the team. He often reports what they say, but that's a reporter's job.

But, Duncan is a hoe. :) I had issues with him before he decided to take the side of the NFL on Bounty Gate to drum up his own name recognition and he has continued to basically troll Saints fans every chance he gets. Beyond that, I don't find him particularly insightful about the game. He's really a horse racing guy trying to cover the Saints.

Beyond that, he once came here under the name "Scooter" and started posting things without revealing that he was Jeff Duncan. Just left a bad taste in my mouth.
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LMAO…I had forgotten about the “Scooter” era. What a time. 🤣
 
SonOfNOLA said:
Like the book title you mentioned. The Saints became closely associated with bagheads when Saints fans faithfully wore bags on their heads at games during 4 sloppy losing seasons with Ditka and Mora, 7 straight losing seasons overall in the 90s.
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The bag heads goes back to the 1-15, 1980 season under Dick Nolan. The 1-15 season followed an 8-8 season of promise. Many take issue with the original bag heads, but at the time the unknown comic was pretty popular and it was done in a fun way. The unknown comic did his comedy routine with a bag over his head. You had to be there and know the times.

I believe we also went into that season having drafted a kicker/punter in THE FIRST ROUND! He was soon relegated to just being a punter which made things more painful.
 
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Ok, someone mentioned Antonio Brown in this thread but I couldn’t find it.

I love MT13 and him lighting up Duncan truly warms my heart.

But… did Mike take a hit to the head when we weren’t looking? He seems to be accelerating down hill. Painkillers? Did he cryo his fingers?
 

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