Saints to interview Aaron Glenn on Jan. 10th [Nick Underhill: Glenn probably gets an in person 2nd interview in a couple of weeks] (157 Viewers)

[SonOfNOLA]

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Name 1 franchise QB developed in the last 10 years by a defensive head coach. Name 1 defensive coach that has gone to the superbowl in the last 10 years.

Tom Brady and Russell Wilson

 

[nakadish]

Cant argue with that. If he can overachieve with a bunch of injuries. This is absolutely the place for him.

I still think we need to go offensive minded. Glenn doesnt give Allen dolt vibes at least. There was nothing about Allen that was HC material. I just want the HC to have more control over his team. Which is why I want Glenn to have multiple teams interested, so he can negotiate some power away from Loomis.

Like that's ever going to happen. You take the offer or go somewhere else. Mickey will have other options too.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Fair chance It's much longer then that. At this point it would feel like a fluke if another NFC team went to the Super Bowl

 

[St. Widge]

They have had at least 12 defensive players on IR and they're still 7th in points allowed. That's overachieving IMO.

There is also this from DerrickB's article:

• 2020 (Before Glenn): 2.95 points allowed per drive
• 2021: 2.52
• 2022: 2.28
• 2023: 2.03
• 2024: 1.91

Points allowed per drive and DVOA posted by Rouxble are probably a better measure that PPG allowed or rushing or passing yards per game. Glenn has done a great job this year considering their injuries they have had this year.

https://sportsview360.com/nfl-top-10-head-coaching-candidates-power-rankings-and-analysis/

I'm not sure that Glenn is some amazingly innovative defensive mind, and I'm not even sure he's the best HC candidate, but he has improved Detrot's defense greatly so he is very good on his side of the ball. But, I think it's his leadership skills and ability to build a team culture, that are the best argument for him to get the job.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

Tom Brady

Tom Brady was drafted just shy of 25 years ago and was a starter in 2001, 24 years ago, signing his first big franchise QB contract in 2002 which was 23 years ago.

 

[nakadish]

Tom Brady

Both Mannings. Rothlisberger.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

Tom Brady was drafted just shy of 25 years ago and was a starter in 2001, 24 years ago, signing his first big franchise QB contract in 2002 which was 23 years ago.

And the head coach who developed him was...??? Also, he won Superbowls within the last decade.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

And the head coach who developed him was...??? Also, he won Superbowls within the last decade.

you're completely out of context of the conversation. Please go back and read.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

you're completely out of context of the conversation. Please go back and read.

You asked about defensive coaches, developing qbs, and Superbowls within the last decade. I provided two.

 

[3ParStillDriver]

You asked about defensive coaches, developing qbs, and Superbowls within the last decade. I provided two.

No you didn't. This may come as a shock to you, but a decade is 10 years. you're going back 20+ years.

 

[baarbogast]

Who developed Purdy?

 

[St. Widge]

The fact you want numbers is silly. You go back around 30 years to name a few when the league and its rules were vastly different. Roethlisberger was developed by Cower more then Tomlin, but the point still stands. Name 1 franchise QB developed in the last 10 years by a defensive head coach. Name 1 defensive head coach that has gone to the superbowl in the last 10 years.

The simple truth is the trend is that offensive head coaches develop franchise QBs, and offensive head coaches win superbowls for the last 10 or so years. People who invest against the trend in stocks, crypto, real estate etc end up in bankruptcy far more often then not. The probabilities are the same here.

Never bet against the trend. Glenn coming here will likely not end up in the superbowl for his tenure here. If I gambled, thats where the smart money bet would be based on trends.

Lol. You said you follow probability. Probability is numbers so of course I want numbers.

Now you just resort to how it feels because it's "simple truth" based on the current trend without any support that you need an offensive coach to develop a QB.

And trends change in the NFL all the time. As soon as a team wins the Super Bowl all the other teams try to emulate them. But it changes all the time. You don't always have to follow the trends to be successful.

I'm not even sure if Glenn is the right choice for Saints HC and I would prefer an offensive HC, but that doesn't mean that you can't win a Super Bowl or develop a franchise QB with a defensive HC because it has been done many times. I mean the longest and best dynasty we have seen in the NFL was run by a defensive HC that developed a 7th round pick QB.

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

No you didn't. This may come as a shock to you, but a decade is 10 years. you're going back 20+ years.

No, I'm not. Tom Brady was still coached by a defensive minded coach in New England when he won Superbowls there within the last decade. Do you think he ceased development?

 

[St. Widge]

Tom Brady was drafted just shy of 25 years ago and was a starter in 2001, 24 years ago, signing his first big franchise QB contract in 2002 which was 23 years ago.

And Tom won the Super Bowl 3 and 5 years ago. That's hardly ancient history. And none of it changes the fact that he developed under a defensive HC.