Update Saints to interview Mike McCarthy in person during this week, Jan. 26-Feb. 1 [Underhill: McCarthy would have to be the current favorite] (67 Viewers)

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

MM will give the franchise 5-6 years of some much needed stability.

He immediately becomes the coach w/ the most skins on the wall in the division. That counts for something.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

If McCarthey is the guy, getting him the right DC will be incredibly important.

 

[Saint Jack]

Are failed NFL coaches amateurs? Are failed NFL head coaches better than the best college football coaches? Are the en vogue young coaches in their 30s more professional, better than the “amateur” Nick Saban?

They’re all ball coaches. Just because you coach young, non-professional level men doesn’t make you yourself an amateur.

When the majority of your career is in the NFL, you are a professional.
And it speaks volumes when the best CFB coaches like Bud Wilkerson, Nick Saban, and Urban Meyer have careers like Dennis Allen.

 

[SuperSaint]

Mccarthy could turn out to be great here, but to me, he just feels like a retread.

 

[St. Geezy]

When the majority of your career is in the NFL, you are a professional.
And it speaks volumes when the best CFB coaches like Bud Wilkerson, Nick Saban, and Urban Meyer have careers like Dennis Allen.

What about Jimmy Johnson, Jim Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, John Robinson, Bobby Ross, Hank Stram, etc etc etc?

 

[silverbullet]

How much fire does McCarthy have left? He's 61 and coming out of a very draining high-profile job with no break. Payton at least got a year off.

I just worry we're in for a John Fox situation. A good coach nearing the end goes to a dumpster fire situation with no QB.

Prescott isn't Farve or Rodgers but he's better than Carr.

I think McCarthy is a safe hire on paper that could go horribly wrong.

What happened to Kellen Moore? He not a candidate anymore?

You need a young, hungry guy imo. McCarthy is just hungry haha

 

[Saint Jack]

What about Jimmy Johnson, Jim Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, John Robinson, Bobby Ross, Hank Stram, etc etc etc?

And then you have Bud Wilkerson, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Chip Kelly, Bobby Petrino, Matt Rhule, John McKay, Gregg Schiano, Lane Kiffin and others that have failed miserably.

 

[Saint Jack]

How much fire does McCarthy have left? He's 61 and coming out of a very draining high-profile job with no break. Payton at least got a year off.

I just worry we're in for a John Fox situation. A good coach nearing the end goes to a dumpster fire situation with no QB.

Prescott isn't Farve or Rodgers but he's better than Carr.

I think McCarthy is a safe hire on paper that could go horribly wrong.

What happened to Kellen Moore? He not a candidate anymore?

You need a young, hungry guy imo. McCarthy is just hungry haha

He’s got about the same amount of time as Payton.
Around 5-6 years. Enough to get MM to that 200 win mark for the Hall and get the franchise to some level of stability.

 

[Covington Saint]

Are we still pretending Caleb is a stud?

 

[St. Geezy]

And then you have Bud Wilkerson, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier, Chip Kelly, Bobby Petrino, Matt Rhule, John McKay, Gregg Schiano, Lane Kiffin and others that have failed miserably.

Yes…we can go back and forth with names, which is my point. You can go back and forth with names from coaches of all walks of life. There is no perfect formula here.

You don’t damn entire demographic because of their background…you interview and vet them and make the best decision you can.

I’m not a big fan of college coaches turned pro either, but I’m not going to say no to all college coaches just because many have failed when I know many have failed from virtually all other backgrounds.

 

[St. Widge]

If McCarthey is the guy, getting him the right DC will be incredibly important.

Going to be interesting to see who he wants as a DC. I think he's always had DCs that were 4-3 guys, but he did run a 4-3 hybrid in Dallas. But that could have just been to get Parsons as many pass rushing snaps as possible while not having him try to play the run as much as a traditional 4-3 DE.

 

[Taker597]

Ehhhh.... No coach we hire is going to provide any stability in the next two seasons as we try to fix our cap situation and find a young QB.

It's honestly better to find a younger coach that can develop 2-3 years as you rebuild. In 3 years, MM might just get burnt out and retire.

I lean towards giving Joe Brady a chance. Either way, I might not sure you'll have either by the time the rebuild is over with imo

 

[St. Widge]

Mccarthy could turn out to be great here, but to me, he just feels like a retread.

That's because he is a retread. But that doesn't mean he can't be successful. I'd be more concerned if he had failed in his prior two jobs, but he didn't. He got pushed out in GB by Rodgers and he essentially left Dallas because of Jerry. And he had a 12-5 record 3 of the last 4 years. Even last year he had 7 wins when they had a ton of injuries.

This isn't like hiring DA who had a really bad losing record with the Raiders.

 

[sfidc3]

I think Brady and Moore are both good coaches. But as already noted, we don't know what kind of leaders they are and how good they are at running an entire team. To some extent you can't know that until someone has the job. But, at the same point, sometimes you can tell those things in an interview or from talking to people who have worked with them before and/or players that played for them. So, in the end, there is really no way we can know if those guys, or any of these guys outside of McCarty, can lead a team and run a team properly.

I'm not happy about the situation, but we just have to live with the fact that Loomis, Mueller, Ziegler, Parenton, Ireland, and Harley will have to decide if those guys have those abilities. It's easy for us to say just take a chance, but if these guys have talked to them and others and have come away with the impression that they don't have those things (and you would think they would not have a pretty good idea by comparing DA to Payton) then they aren't going to take that chance.

But, who knows, maybe they talked to Brady and Moore and they do think they are leaders of men who will come in change how things are done and make sure the entire team is being run properly. Or maybe they think that's Weaver or Kakfa.

I largely agree, Brady presents risks that McCarthy doesn't.....but I also think the combination of his youth (he would likely be here a while if successful) and his offensive prowess makes him at least a strong consideration.....

But I also know I don't trust Loomis to make the right decision....hopefully the group decision is a true group decision....

Impossible to know who they are favoring at this point but my favorites are Brady and then McCarthy.....

 

[St. Widge]

Ehhhh.... No coach we hire is going to provide any stability in the next two seasons as we try to fix our cap situation and find a young QB.

It's honestly better to find a younger coach that can develop 2-3 years as you rebuild. In 3 years, MM might just get burnt out and retire.

I lean towards giving Joe Brady a chance.

My hope is that McCarthy can right the ship and rebuild the roster with young talent before he decides to retire. Then we can be in a position to hire one of the hot young coaches and give them a real chance to succeed. I'm just not sure this is the idea situation for a young coach with no experience running or building a team.

Still, I'd probably be more excited by a Brady, Moore, or even Kafka hire, but I also see a lot of reasons why McCarthy would make sense for this team in this situation. Sean managed to build a team as a young coach, but he also got really lucky to get Brees and Reggie Bush in his first year. Our next coach isn't going to have that head start.