Seahawks hired Saints OC Klint Kubiak as their new Offensive Coordinator (13 Viewers)

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I think Kubiak is going to have a great career and people will look back and realize just how bad a hand he was dealt in New Orleans between being saddled with Dennis Allen and missing basically 8 or 9 of 11 starters on offense for the majority of the year. I think those first 2 games are more indicative of Kubiak than the last 15. That sounds ridiculous, but I believe time will show it. bad leadership combined with poor everchanging personnel is hard to overcome.

I wish him luck in the future, but I don't think he'll need it.
 
livefromDC said:
I think Kubiak is going to have a great career and people will look back and realize just how bad a hand he was dealt in New Orleans between being saddled with Dennis Allen and missing basically 8 or 9 of 11 starters on offense for the majority of the year. I think those first 2 games are more indicative of Kubiak than the last 15. That sounds ridiculous, but I believe time will show it. bad leadership combined with poor everchanging personnel is hard to overcome.

I wish him look in the future, but I don't think he'll need it.
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I kinda agree. There were a few puzzling playcalls here and there. But honestly, that would probably be the case with just about anybody calling plays. For example, I was regularly frustrated with Sean Payton for a couple calls just about every game.

I think Kubiak was hamstrung (pun intended) by an injury-depleted Offense. I don't think he's the kind of personality that could ever succeed beyond the coordinator level. But I think he's got the chops to be darn successful in that role. Just needs stable leadership, and I think he'll have that in Seattle.
 
livefromDC said:
I think Kubiak is going to have a great career and people will look back and realize just how bad a hand he was dealt in New Orleans between being saddled with Dennis Allen and missing basically 8 or 9 of 11 starters on offense for the majority of the year. I think those first 2 games are more indicative of Kubiak than the last 15. That sounds ridiculous, but I believe time will show it. bad leadership combined with poor everchanging personnel is hard to overcome.

I wish him luck in the future, but I don't think he'll need it.
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I'd be more concerned that he would go on to have a great career if what we saw here wasn't very similar to how he did in Minnesota.
 
Kubiak's a made man and will probably be a head coach within 5 years. That said, he will now be with 5 different organizations in the last 5 years. Coaching is a cruel business.
 
Mojomajik9 said:
I wish him well and while it is true he had bad luck with injuries I am not sad to see him go. It just didn’t work out. I felt the lack of adjustments and failures to adapt to to the ebb and flow of the game really hurt this team in close games.
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What's the adjustment though? What would you have done? You think not being able to get the ball to your 4th string WR, who's forced into a starting role, is a playbook issue? There's no amount of adjusting that's going to make up that talent discrepancy in the NFL.

"I know it's our backup QB, 3rd string RB, and a practice squad WR, but let's run more play action this quarter. They won't know what hit'em!"

The talent difference was so bad, I don't think it would have mattered. If your 4th through practice squad WRs can't get open, they can't get open. They're not open in play action, they're not open in spread. They aren't getting opened after "adjustments".
 
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livefromDC said:
What's the adjustment though? What would you have done? You think not being able to get the ball to your 4th string WR, who's forced into a starting role, is a playbook issue? There's no amount of adjusting that's going to make up that talent discrepancy in the NFL.

"I know it's our back QB, 3rd string RB, and a practice squad WR, but let's run more play action this quarter. They won't know what hit'em!"
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The problem was everything looked good for those first 15 or so scripted plays. But by the second half the offense fell apart. Does being short handed hurt? Of course, but those same backup:s could play decently well for most of the first half. So what happened exactly? It’s not entirely his fault but at the same time it his job to craft a solid game plan.
 
St. Widge said:
Who has ever gotten anything in return for an OC? Much less an OC that worked for a HC that got fired?

He was allowed to look for other jobs and he got one. The timing seems to indicate that he may have known that whoever the Saints are targeting at HC wasn't likely to retain Kubiak.
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Yeah, some people are just trying too hard to find stuff that Loomis has done wrong. Lol
 
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Mojomajik9 said:
The problem was everything looked good for those first 15 or so scripted plays. But by the second half the offense fell apart. Does being short handed hurt? Of course, but those same backup:s could play decently well for most of the first half. So what happened exactly? It’s not entirely his fault but at the same time it his job to craft a solid game plan.
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You could be right. Playing devil's advocate for a minute, could less talented and/or inexperienced players play better when they're running scripted plays they've been practicing most of the week? That drop off in talent level can't be underestimated.

I watched those games. I just don't know what game plan people were expecting especially at the end of the season when there was a rookie QB paired with WRs and RBs who weren't even on the team to start the season. Think about that. That's a LOT to overcome.
 

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