Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (2 Viewers)

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Scorpius the Allfather said:
Picard doesn't suck. Discovery didn't suck until every damn episode had to have crying and bull like that.
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You know, the only thing that bugged me about Discovery and Picard to an extent....They always have to pause and talk about their feelings with/about someone/something while the whole world is blowing up around them and people are dying.....Can we have a little urgency please?!
 
Star Trek has never only been about the action, shoot 'em up. Not the series anyway.

The wonderful thing about opinions is that everyone is entitled to theirs. "THEY ALL SUCKED!" . . . really just an opinion based on personal taste and expectations. But MY opinion is that Discovery and Picard most certainly DID NOT suck. I have learned over the years that my base expectation is that I will be entertained. Everything else is just a pleasant surprise.
 
Terrence said:
I believe that Star Trek always have a social justice platform at the time. Multicultural team. Russian member. Interracial dating. Or maybe the days we watched it, those were norms so they were not seen as such.
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I do have to agree with you. I guess being a kid in the 80's watching TOS, I picked up that why we may look different and be from different places, we are all very much alike. There's just something about Discovery that doesn't feel like Trek to me. It felt like every episode is an end of universe event and that what makes us different is what is most important. Trek, to me, was not about constant end of universe events and felt like it showed no matter how different we were, we could come together to achieve greater things.
Some of my favorite episodes of all the series' is when it seems they follow a character through what could be considered an average day for them. Seems like those are gone currently.
 
vdubee said:
I do have to agree with you. I guess being a kid in the 80's watching TOS, I picked up that why we may look different and be from different places, we are all very much alike. There's just something about Discovery that doesn't feel like Trek to me. It felt like every episode is an end of universe event and that what makes us different is what is most important. Trek, to me, was not about constant end of universe events and felt like it showed no matter how different we were, we could come together to achieve greater things.
Some of my favorite episodes of all the series' is when it seems they follow a character through what could be considered an average day for them. Seems like those are gone currently.
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Hopefully Strange New Worlds will bring this feeling back. Just from the first episode, it feels more like TOS than any of the other current iterations.
 
vdubee said:
I do have to agree with you. I guess being a kid in the 80's watching TOS, I picked up that why we may look different and be from different places, we are all very much alike. There's just something about Discovery that doesn't feel like Trek to me. It felt like every episode is an end of universe event and that what makes us different is what is most important. Trek, to me, was not about constant end of universe events and felt like it showed no matter how different we were, we could come together to achieve greater things.
Some of my favorite episodes of all the series' is when it seems they follow a character through what could be considered an average day for them. Seems like those are gone currently.
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I hear you.

You could watch random episodes of TNG and not be lost. This new trend of one continuous store line started with DS9 and has accelerated in today's times.
 
The Nomad said:
Didn't they debut the same year?
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Yes, but Babylon 5 had been in development for several years with J. Michael Straczynski pitching to numerous studios, including Paramount who he gave a copy of the series Bible and other reference materials to. Allegedly they kept them after passing on making the series, and he has expressed his belief that they plagiarized his ideas when they conceptualized DS9. To be fair, he says he does not think he was directly plagiarized by the writers of DS9, but that Paramount ripped him off when they designed thr DS9 concept.
 
Sun Wukong said:
Yes, but Babylon 5 had been in development for several years with J. Michael Straczynski pitching to numerous studios, including Paramount who he gave a copy of the series Bible and other reference materials to. Allegedly they kept them after passing on making the series, and he has expressed his belief that they plagiarized his ideas when they conceptualized DS9. To be fair, he says he does not think he was directly plagiarized by the writers of DS9, but that Paramount ripped him off when they designed thr DS9 concept.
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They had the Bible for an entire year before turning him down. He also made peace with them which is why Majel Barrett appeared in an episode of Babylon 5 and Lennier(actor) from 5 showed up in season 7 of DS9. Lyta from Babylon 5(they had one in DS9, one of the stolen things) is a stunt woman mainly and worked for several Star Trek shows and Babylon 5 at the same time. It's why she never really showed up at a convention for 5 because she was working on Star Trek.
 

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