Texas, the new Florida (2 Viewers)

[Cage1]

Those same women will raise hell when the class sizes have to be increased due to a teacher shortage. There aren't enough teachers and there aren't enough substitutes, and the current climate in some ISD's, as you noted, has driven people from education, or pursuing it as a career. At some point the ISD's will need to stop appeasing the most vocal parents, and start putting the children first. Don't get me started on the books thing. It was starting to look like "Farenheit 451" for a while.

Our school district is hemorrhaging good teachers.

 

[dtc]

With history, what's done is done, but I do believe in transparency, because there are actually various viewpoints that can be explored.
Yes, I believe ALL sides of the Holocaust should be taught because it wasn't as black and white and we make it.
There should also be transparency regarding the Civil War, because we still got plenty of people thinking it was about slavery when Lincoln wanted to keep the Union together at all cost.
Transparency regarding the Civil War, Reconstruction and the breakdown of it would give insight into the rise of Jim Crow and talk about the rise of the Civil Rights Era (but some things about that should be kept "in house," such as its failings)
And viewpoints do change but that change should not be forced or pushed because of your teachers political or social view, because that introduces biases one way or another.
And I agree 100% regarding Christopher Columbus but in my family and remnant of the community, I had "old heads" telling me to look at little deeper into it but with transparent history, we would have the complete picture.

And I don't use the term "woke" due to the fact that once it left "our" community, it took on a meaning far from its original intent and those that use it have no idea what it means and those that believe they are, aren't.

YOu said


1. the holocauste 'wasn't as black and white as we make it'
2. the civil war wasn't about slavery
3. parts of civil rights shouldn't be taught because of it's failings

and some nonsense about "old heads"

You are either trolling or wrong.

 

[jahsoul357]

YOu said


1. the holocauste 'wasn't as black and white as we make it'
2. the civil war wasn't about slavery
3. parts of civil rights shouldn't be taught because of it's failings

and some nonsense about "old heads"

You are either trolling or wrong.

1. It wasn't. It was much more than just Nazi, Hitler, death of many "Orthodox" Jews and WW2.
2. The Civil War was about the reunification of the Union. Slavery was a key driver to secession but the Civil War started 2 months after Texas seceded; what happened during that time? If Lincoln could have kept the Union together while keeping the institution of Slavery, he would have. Those were his words.
3. The "failings" of the Civil Rights Era/Movement should be an "in house" discussion, as there were failings and true Civil Rights leaders began to see it. Martin Luther King's burning house comment alludes to this.

So, if I am wrong, you should be able to tell me how I'm wrong

 

[dtc]

1. It wasn't. It was much more than just Nazi, Hitler, death of many "Orthodox" Jews and WW2.
2. The Civil War was about the reunification of the Union. Slavery was a key driver to secession but the Civil War started 2 months after Texas seceded; what happened during that time? If Lincoln could have kept the Union together while keeping the institution of Slavery, he would have. Those were his words.
3. The "failings" of the Civil Rights Era/Movement should be an "in house" discussion, as there were failings and true Civil Rights leaders began to see it. Martin Luther King's burning house comment alludes to this.

So, if I am wrong, you should be able to tell me how I'm wrong

The holocaust was mass genocide of a number of groups. There is not a single rational excuse for it and parsing words like black and white doesn't cut it. Hitler and his group extinguished the life of millions of jews, gypsies and others. Perhaps you can explain how it's anything other than black and white and pure evil incarnate.

Perhaps not.

The civil war was 100% over slavery. The fact Lincoln said he'd save the union and keep slavery only illustrates his priority was to save our nation more than emancipate the slaves. That said, as the direct descendant of slave owners, slave traders and plantation owners, I am here to tell you that were there no slavery there would have been no war. There is no amount of state's rights nonsense nor economic oppression or "Murika Freedom" argument you can make that will change the facts.

History has to be taught warts and all. It's not to increase self image, it's to increase self awareness. Moral failings of figures or any time or movement are necessary to understand fully the person so that nuance and detail can be better understood. Not teaching about Jim Crow because MLK Jr was a philanderer or whatever crappy rationale you're pitching should not ever preclude the instruction in our history.

 

[Goatman Saint]

Every time I see things like this I’m so happy for 3 things

1. I only have 5 years left in teaching
2. I teach low income immigrant students who simply want a good education to have a better life
3. I teach young enough kids this really doesn’t effect me anyway

 

[jahsoul357]

The holocaust was mass genocide of a number of groups. There is not a single rational excuse for it and parsing words like black and white doesn't cut it. Hitler and his group extinguished the life of millions of jews, gypsies and others. Perhaps you can explain how it's anything other than black and white and pure evil incarnate.

Perhaps not.

The civil war was 100% over slavery. The fact Lincoln said he'd save the union and keep slavery only illustrates his priority was to save our nation more than emancipate the slaves. That said, as the direct descendant of slave owners, slave traders and plantation owners, I am here to tell you that were there no slavery there would have been no war. There is no amount of state's rights nonsense nor economic oppression or "Murika Freedom" argument you can make that will change the facts.

History has to be taught warts and all. It's not to increase self image, it's to increase self awareness. Moral failings of figures or any time or movement are necessary to understand fully the person so that nuance and detail can be better understood. Not teaching about Jim Crow because MLK Jr was a philanderer or whatever crappy rationale you're pitching should not ever preclude the instruction in our history.

Agreed, but if you look at the context of the conversation, "both sides" of the Holocaust was mentioned, to which I mentioned ALL sides and it wasn't black and white. I know many different groups died (even though numbers vary) but when speaking about both sides, there were various "sides."

Regarding the Civil War, it was about the Union and everything else was secondary. As the direct descendant of slaves in America, I'm not naïve to the fact that "ending slavery" was a means, with the Emancipation Proclamation being used as a political tool, that it was more beneficial for Lincoln to keep the Union unified (*cough*import/export*cough*), and slavery was not the driver for war. Again, it was a driver for secession. Those are facts; not the "Lincoln fought the war to free the slaves" stuff we got in school.

And it looks like you aren't reading what I'm saying. Who said anything about not teaching Jim Crow? Reread what I stated, I mentioned the failings of this Civil Rights Era/Movement and it had nothing to do with what MLK Jr may or may not have done. It has to do with what was really gained and what could have/should have been done differently.

 

[Eeyore]

I hope that this goes to the supreme court

Pregnant Texas woman driving in HOV lane told police her unborn child counted as a passenger

Brandy Bottone of Plano says she received a citation for driving alone in the two-or-more...

www.chron.com

 

[gboudx]

Hopefully this gets tossed before wasting her time to fight it in court. The rule does not state the people have to be outside the body.

North Texas HOV lanes

www.txdot.gov

Who can use the HOV lane?

A vehicle occupied by two or more people or a motorcyclist may use HOV lanes. Vehicles eligible to use HOV lanes include, but are not limited to:

• passenger cars
• pickup trucks
• vans
• buses
• motorcycles
• emergency vehicles responding to a call

 

[Crzycjunx76]

I hope that this goes to the supreme court

Pregnant Texas woman driving in HOV lane told police her unborn child counted as a passenger

Brandy Bottone of Plano says she received a citation for driving alone in the two-or-more...

www.chron.com

I dont... they will use it as an excuse to define personhood as being from zygote onwards or something criminally insane like that. At that point abortion, MAP, etc, become illegal in all 50 states, and miscarrages become criminal investigations.

I know WHY you want this to go up to the SCOTUS, pointing out their lunacy would make me happy...but I fear they will just double down on their fundamentalist extremism and send us back to the dark ages at an accelerated rate.

I almost hope we just take some beatings at the state level and avoid higher challenges on pretty much anything consequential until some of the bassakwards judges kick off and are replaced. Dont want to let anymore decisions corrosive to liberty be set as federal precident by those arsehats.

 

[Eeyore]

I dont... they will use it as an excuse to define personhood as being from zygote onwards or something criminally insane like that. At that point abortion, MAP, etc, become illegal in all 50 states, and miscarrages become criminal investigations.

I know WHY you want this to go up to the SCOTUS, pointing out their lunacy would make me happy...but I fear they will just double down on their fundamentalist extremism and send us back to the dark ages at an accelerated rate.

I almost hope we just take some beatings at the state level and avoid higher challenges on pretty much anything consequential until some of the bassakwards judges kick off and are replaced. Dont want to let anymore decisions corrosive to liberty be set as federal precident by those arsehats.

If we're going to be stupid then let's do it.

Let's apply child labor laws to this.

 

[dtc]

Regarding the Civil War, it was about the Union and everything else was secondary. As the direct descendant of slaves in America, I'm not naïve to the fact that "ending slavery" was a means, with the Emancipation Proclamation being used as a political tool, that it was more beneficial for Lincoln to keep the Union unified (*cough*import/export*cough*), and slavery was not the driver for war. Again, it was a driver for secession. Those are facts; not the "Lincoln fought the war to free the slaves" stuff we got in school.

Saying what you do above is nonsensical.

Saving the Union was the goal because slave states intended to secede. The demands of slave ownership drove the secession plans and caused the need to "save the union"

Slavery drove secession. Secession necessitated saving the union.

And I didn't say Lincoln fought the war to free the slaves. Our nation fought a war to save the union from the pressures of secession of southern states who were hell bent on preserving slavery.

 

[dtc]

Hopefully this gets tossed before wasting her time to fight it in court. The rule does not state the people have to be outside the body.

North Texas HOV lanes

www.txdot.gov

Who can use the HOV lane?

A vehicle occupied by two or more people or a motorcyclist may use HOV lanes. Vehicles eligible to use HOV lanes include, but are not limited to:

• passenger cars
• pickup trucks
• vans
• buses
• motorcycles
• emergency vehicles responding to a call

Do folks with multiple personalities get a free pass?

 

[Grumpy Old Manatee]

I just keep a couple of People magazines on the dash. Does the law define “People”?

I guess I should buckle ‘em up so as to not get hit with a “no seatbelt” ticket.

 

[Brad Mojo]

Do folks with multiple personalities get a free pass?

How about "Officer, I got some action last night and there's certainly some sperm still in there..."

 

[gboudx]

Do folks with multiple personalities get a free pass?

...multiple personalities...
multiple person-alities
multiple person

The appropriate way to say "multiple person" is "people".

So yes, free pass Sybil