The Playmaker Michael Irvin Pulled from All Super Bowl Coverage/NFL Network (09/14 EDIT: Irvin settles his defamation suit w/hotel, returns to NFLN) (1 Viewer)

[Maik Jeaunz]

just to be safe, I'm planning to ask everyone to answer the following questionnaire before I talk to them:

Would bang?

O Yes
O No
O Tacoes

 

[St. Geezy]

He's a grown adult too. he shouldn't be going around asking anyone what type of men they have had inside of them.

It's not like he's facing criminal charges. His comment reflected negatively on his employer who are at the mercy of advertisers. He needs to do better.

Fair assessment. Don’t agree that it needed to rise to the level it did, but I do agree that it was inappropriate and creepy.

 

[saint_drago]

He's a grown adult too. he shouldn't be going around asking anyone what type of men they have had inside of them.

It's not like he's facing criminal charges. His comment reflected negatively on his employer who are at the mercy of advertisers. He needs to do better.

I made the mistake of jumping to a conclusion when this story first broke. I figured since it was Irvin that whatever they claimed he did was probably true. But since literally nothing they claimed to have happened actually happened in the video, I think it would be a mistake to believe that he actually said everything they claim he said.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

He's a grown adult too. he shouldn't be going around asking anyone what type of men they have had inside of them.

It's not like he's facing criminal charges. His comment reflected negatively on his employer who are at the mercy of advertisers. He needs to do better.

You or neither of us know if Irvin actually said that. That’s the reason he brought a $100 million lawsuit and demanding full video evidence. Video shows them simply having an engaging conversation with one another, without audio, with no inappropriate sexual body language or no pullback reactions to something inappropriate. This is the problem with prejudiced people who need to do better than assuming accusations are automatically true without evidence.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

You or neither of us know if Irvin actually said that. That’s the reason he brought a $100 million lawsuit and demanding full video evidence. Video shows them simply having an engaging conversation with one another, without audio, with no inappropriate sexual body language or no pullback reactions to something inappropriate. This is the problem with prejudice and assuming accusations are automatically true without evidence.

Maybe he didn't.

That doesn't change the hypothetical conversation that the last couple of pages this thread has been about.

 

[SonOfNOLA]

Maybe he didn't.

That doesn't change the hypothetical conversation that the last couple of pages this thread has been about.

Nah it’s not a maybe he didn't when you definitively stating he needs to do better and presuming prejudiced guilt upon someone. Rather than reserving judgment and holding an accuser accountable for fabrication based on video.

The last few pages, at least when I initially posted, was about the video footage not supporting sexual assault or misconduct accusations.

 

[saint_drago]

Maybe he didn't.

That doesn't change the hypothetical conversation that the last couple of pages this thread has been about.

I think it does. I think we're talking about two different things. What I'm talking about is your normal, run of the mill, flirting with a woman. Like, "Hey how are you doing. My name is Drago can I buy you a drink. Can I have your number." That kind of deal. I'm not talking about some kind of aggressive, crude, and insulting things that have never been appropriate. Like, "Hey girl you wanna take a ride on the Drago Train?! Choo Choo! All aboard! I got the engine and you got the caboose!" There's a major difference in my opinion.

 

[BreesusSaves]

just to be safe, I'm planning to ask everyone to answer the following questionnaire before I talk to them:

Or option D. Tacos. Like, actual tacos.

 

[mikedre]

I get what you're saying. I really do. I was never the type of guy who walked up to a woman I have never met and asked for her number or anything like that. That just wasn't me. Now that I think about it I was never in a relationship that wasn't initiated by the woman. But I had friends who weren't shy and they would try to talk to women and get their number. Not in an aggressive way or anything, just normal flirting. Now that is inappropriate and offensive. Just a different time.

I'm that guy too. I have and still am being approached by shockingly forward women. I truly don't see what they see. My wife tells me that I'm oblivious to how women disrespectfully stare at me, as she is invisible. Wome are so bold these days. Some have even told me that they want what they want. To me, if a guy was doing the things or saying what some women have said to me, we would be behind bars.

 

[mikedre]

Nope. We were all conceived immaculately. No way our parents had sex. Nope. Not thinking about it.

SO, IT WASN'T A SWALLOWED FRUIT SEED????

 

[Madmarsha]

just to be safe, I'm planning to ask everyone to answer the following questionnaire before I talk to them:

I'd probably have chosen a different option than "tacoes". Think about it.

 

[Madmarsha]

Nah it’s not a maybe he didn't when you definitively stating he needs to do better and presuming prejudiced guilt upon someone. Rather than reserving judgment and holding an accuser accountable for fabrication based on video.

The last few pages, at least when I initially posted, was about the video footage not supporting sexual assault or misconduct accusations.

Michael Irvin is the kind of personality that is difficult for me to give the benefit of the doubt to like I did to Darren Sharper. Obviously I had to change my stance on that one.

 

[Madmarsha]

SO, IT WASN'T A SWALLOWED FRUIT SEED????

It was the stork.

 

[mikedre]

Well, can I tell a story that happened to me and let you guys here decide?

I was at a retail store looking through a display of books and magazines, so fairly engrossed in that when I realized that another shopper had gotten close to me and I could tell he wasn't actively looking through anything on the shelf. So I focused my attention on him and I could tell he was, um, enjoying himself through his hands in his pocket but didn't expose himself. I looked him in the eye as if to wordlessly communicate, "I see what you are doing and I don't like it", and removed myself from the aisle. I think technically that's illegal and possibly technically an assault.

Let's flip this over, MM. Tell me what you think about this. My wife and I went to exchange an item at Wallyworld. I told the cashier wahat I was trying to do, and she put the item aside when I went to see if they had another one. When I got back in line, a younger cashier came from behind the counter and asked if I she could help. I told her that the other cashier had already started the process. At the time, it didn't seem strange, but afterwards, I was wondering why she came from behind the counter and asked me, but didn't ask the person in front of me. Moreso, why leave your register. When my turn came, I finished my transaction, then as we were leaving the area, my wife grabbed me by a back belt loop and jerked me towards her. This caught me off guard, because she never did that before. When I asked her why, so said that the two cashiers were standing there and gawking at me like she was non-existant. I had never looked up to notice any of it happening. She definitely had to feel disrespected for her to react like that.

 

[Madmarsha]

Nah it’s not a maybe he didn't when you definitively stating he needs to do better and presuming prejudiced guilt upon someone. Rather than reserving judgment and holding an accuser accountable for fabrication based on video.

The last few pages, at least when I initially posted, was about the video footage not supporting sexual assault or misconduct accusations.

It proves he didn't phsyically assault her. It doesn't prove he wasn't being lewd.