The Playmaker Michael Irvin Pulled from All Super Bowl Coverage/NFL Network (09/14 EDIT: Irvin settles his defamation suit w/hotel, returns to NFLN) (1 Viewer)

[meily]

Not if you are talking to them because you hope they will have sex with you.

 

[meily]

It was probably always offensive to most of the women they interacted with, the women just didn't feel comfortable expressing that.

Women should be able to go to work or the grocery store without having to rebuff men's advances.

Just because it has worked for guys in the past, doesn't mean it was ever appropriate, and didn't at least annoy many of the women on the receiving end.

You do realize women hit on men all the time, right?...…..or maybe you don't.

 

[Madmarsha]

Yeah I just don’t agree with that. You may not ever see that person again.

Obviously my point of view involves keeping it classy and not being a creep, but if I am single and I see a girl working that I like, and I have seen some hint of a signal (we all know that eye thing we do to acknowledge mutual attraction with one another), I’m going for it if I’m in the mood to and don’t see a ring.

Yeah, I'm not pushing back on what you are saying. Only that I want men to remember generally women are more vulnerable and we may have that more on the forefront in our minds. But I've also been known to be fairly blunt to a man who I could tell maybe had more on his mind than what I did if we found ourselves conversing at a bar by saying something like, I'm enjoying talking to you but just so you know, it's not happening.

 

[St. Geezy]

Not if you are talking to them because you hope they will have sex with you.

Literally every pursuit, especially if it is between people within prime fertile ages and slightly beyond, involves someone eventually wanting to have sex with the other. On a scientific level, this is how we are programmed. It is how our species survives.

Almost every interaction or thing we do as an adult human being involves asking ourselves two questions - 1. Can I eat this/Will this thing help me eat, or 2. Can I have sex with this/Will this thing help me have sex?

Virtually every person you meet of the opposite sex, you’re immediately ascertaining whether or not you find them sexually attractive.

These are not opinions, these are scientific facts with how we are programmed at a pure primal level.

 

[Madmarsha]

Literally every pursuit, especially if it is between people within prime fertile ages and slightly beyond, involves someone eventually wanting to have sex with the other. On a scientific level, this is how we are programmed. It is how our species survives.

Almost every interaction or thing we do as an adult human being involves asking ourselves two questions - 1. Can I eat this/Will this thing help me eat, or 2. Can I have sex with this/Will this thing help me have sex?

Virtually every person you meet of the opposite sex, you’re immediately ascertaining whether or not you find them sexually attractive.

These are not opinions, these are scientific facts with how we are programmed.

Look, just so you know, it's not happening.

 

[St. Geezy]

Look, just so you know, it's not happening.

Aw don’t do me like that, baby!

 

[Stalwart385]

I imagine this about him going up to her and telling her what she should be doing in his bedroom. Not hitting on her, not trying to woo her, just being straight up vulgar.

 

[St. Geezy]

I imagine this about him going up to her and telling her what she should be doing in his bedroom. Not hitting on her, not trying to woo her, just being straight up vulgar.

Then he is a creep, she walks away, he walks away, and the evening continues for both parties.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

Look guys, i've been married literally forever, so I'm not into the single scene at all.

I'm just trying to explain the position that so many guys seem to be complaining about.

If you are afraid a woman is going to take offense to you hitting on her, don't hit on women in situations where it isn't clear that she is looking to get hit on.

Otherwise, there is a chance that the woman is going to take offense. She absolutely has the right to take offense, or get pissy with you if you hit on her in the grocery store or she is at work. Most of them won't, but it's not the woman's fault, if she get's offended by your advances.

I guess you are going to have to just take the risk of being offensive. Just don't get all pissy when a woman acts like you are ruining her day, because if she decides you ruined her day, then you did.

 

[St. Geezy]

Look guys, i've been married literally forever, so I'm not into the single scene at all.

I'm just trying to explain the position that so many guys seem to be complaining about.

If you are afraid a woman is going to take offense to you hitting on her, don't hit on women in situations where it isn't clear that she is looking to get hit on.

Otherwise, there is a chance that the woman is going to take offense. She absolutely has the right to take offense, or get pissy with you if you hit on her in the grocery store or she is at work. Most of them won't, but it's not the woman's fault, if she get's offended by your advances.

I guess you are going to have to just take the risk of being offensive. Just don't get all pissy when a woman acts like you are ruining her day, because if she decides you ruined her day, then you did.

Of course! And this is an outcome most people are familiar with when rejected. The situation here though that we are discussing involves this man potentially facing legal issues and essentially getting sent home from work, not to mention public ridicule.

Is all that warranted just because the woman he hit on happened to not be feeling him?

 

[Madmarsha]

As I explain to you guys how women have sometimes felt when out in the "wild", I keep thinking about this episode from Taxi at (about 20:06)

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

Of course! And this is an outcome most people are familiar with when rejected. The situation here though that we are discussing involves this man potentially facing legal issues and essentially getting sent home from work, not to mention public ridicule.

Is all that warranted just because the woman he hit on happened to not be feeling him?

If he said what she said he said, then yes.

There is a power dynamic involved, because he is Michael Irvin. That shouldn't be taken out of the equation, him saying that would put a different kind of pressure on her that it wouldn't if it was just some random dude.

 

[Madmarsha]

Of course! And this is an outcome most people are familiar with when rejected. The situation here though that we are discussing involves this man potentially facing legal issues and essentially getting sent home from work, not to mention public ridicule.

Is all that warranted just because the woman he hit on happened to not be feeling him?

I am jaded by my belief that Michael Irvin doesn't deserve to be where he's at these days in the first place because his antics in this day and age would never have gone unsanctioned. So I have no problem with him losing his gig.

 

[St. Geezy]

If he said what she said he said, then yes.

There is a power dynamic involved, because he is Michael Irvin. That shouldn't be taken out of the equation, him saying that would put a different kind of pressure on her that it wouldn't if it was just some random dude.

This is the type of argument made in a statutory rape case or a case where this is her employer.

In this case, she’s a grown adult, he’s a grown adult, they have no affiliation, and if one party doesn’t like the other, they walk away.

 

[WhoDatPhan78]

This is the type of argument made in a statutory rape case or a case where this is her employer.

In this case, she’s a grown adult, he’s a grown adult, they have no affiliation, and if one party doesn’t like the other, they walk away.

He's a grown adult too. he shouldn't be going around asking anyone what type of men they have had inside of them.

It's not like he's facing criminal charges. His comment reflected negatively on his employer who are at the mercy of advertisers. He needs to do better.