Titanic submersible es morte (1 Viewer)

[El Caliente]

 

[DavidM]

I don’t follow the guy (I agree with others that he is a wild one), but I echo his sentiments.

As mentioned previously it’s sickening to see so many on social media rejoicing in the death of another “evil rich person”, without even knowing who these people were (other than being better off than them).

It must be a miserable existence to live like that.

I agree that some of the commentary around the demise of these individuals has been disturbing but Walsh is hardly somebody to take seriously in calling that out. He's made a livelihood out of being hateful.

Much of social media is a toxic cesspool of bitterness and hatred so anybody surprised by that now either hasn't been paying attention or they ignore it until the targets are people they can find some reason to care about.

The devolution of Twitter is only making it all that much worse.

 

[Eeyore]

Critics Say Submersible Should’ve Been Tested With Poorer Passengers First

WASHINGTON—Analyzing the mistakes OceanGate made that led to the vessel’s disappearance, critics told reporters Thursday that the submersible should have been tested with poorer passengers first. “The company skipped the very crucial step of sending five lower-class people to the bottom of the...

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[Complex Kid]

 

[Sun Wukong]

Now that's soul crushing.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I think tights would have been acceptable.

I definitely would have been brought before the committee if I’d worn tights

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

That poor kid

 

[superchuck500]

I don’t follow the guy (I agree with others that he is a wild one), but I echo his sentiments.

As mentioned previously it’s sickening to see so many on social media rejoicing in the death of another “evil rich person”, without even knowing who these people were (other than being better off than them).

It must be a miserable existence to live like that.

I think it’s a natural product of dramatic concentration of wealth. Is any of it actually moral?

The 10 richest people in the world own more than the bottom 3.5 billion people. That’s almost half of the world population. I think some cynicism is forgivable. Yes those billionaires died but somewhere between 10k and 15k people starved today. And yesterday.

I’m not saying any of it is right or wrong, but it does indeed seem to be a symptom of something larger that is very real.

 

[Saintman2884]

I understand having that instinct/reaction to this. I also understand it's a pretty common amongst certain people that have absolutely no business engaging in moral grandstanding. And I understand once more that this instinct will not be felt by said people in many other instances where moral objection is much more appropriate.

I think it’s a natural product of dramatic concentration of wealth. Is any of it actually moral?

The 10 richest people in the world own more than the bottom 3.5 billion people. That’s almost half of the world population. I think some cynicism is forgivable. Yes those billionaires died but somewhere between 10k and 15k people starved today. And yesterday.

I’m not saying any of it is right or wrong, but it does indeed seem to be a symptom of something larger that is very real.

its not moral, under any circumstances, Super, to act and behave in a despicable, immoral manner saying on Twitter, Facebook, and other social media that their glad they died, or deserved to die, just because as El Caliente mentioned earlier, their just “evil rich people”. It reveals a not-too-favorable element or irrational side of some people’s dispositions they engage in this kind of wish-casting when we forget from a fundamental human level, these are human beings some of these angry trolls are gleefully lapping up their demises. What about the 19-year old son of that Pakistani billionaire who will now never grow to manhood, follow in his father’s footsteps or mark his own path in the world, get married and raise a family? That never happens, now.

If that same cynicism starts leading to others devaluating human life, no matter their intentions or beliefs surrounding it, then we as a human race haven’t really learned or evolved that much since Stalin’s purges, gulags, or Pol Pot’s “Killing Fields”. If we let class envy, hatred get out of control, it can often lead to violent, massive upheavals in society. The French Revolution is a great example, the Russian Revolution is an even better, brutal, ruthless and excessive one. Many of the condemned “criminals” guillotined during Robespierre’s “Reign of Terror” were just ordinary people who disagreed with Robespierre’s handling of the economy, treatment of French citizens, civilians and who hadn’t committed a crime at all other than just fell under Robespierre’s Committee of Public Safety.

 

[jboss]

its not moral, under any circumstances, Super, to act and behave in a despicable, immoral manner saying on Twitter, Facebook, and other social media that their glad they died, or deserved to die, just because as El Caliente mentioned earlier, their just “evil rich people”. It reveals a not-too-favorable element or irrational side of some people’s dispositions they engage in this kind of wish-casting when we forget from a fundamental human level, these are human beings some of these angry trolls are gleefully lapping up their demises. What about the 19-year old son of that Pakistani billionaire who will now never grow to manhood, follow in his father’s footsteps or mark his own path in the world, get married and raise a family? That never happens, now.

If that same cynicism starts leading to others devaluating human life, no matter their intentions or beliefs surrounding it, then we as a human race haven’t really learned or evolved that much since Stalin’s purges, gulags, or Pol Pot’s “Killing Fields”. If we let class envy, hatred get out of control, it can often lead to violent, massive upheavals in society. The French Revolution is a great example, the Russian Revolution is an even better, brutal, ruthless and excessive one. Many of the condemned “criminals” guillotined during Robespierre’s “Reign of Terror” were just ordinary people who disagreed with Robespierre’s handling of the economy, treatment of French citizens, civilians and who hadn’t committed a crime at all other than just fell under Robespierre’s Committee of Public Safety.

Wasn't just talking about Matt Walsh. It's a common instinct among his ilk. And from all these drawn out diatribes you've been posting about very particular historical events and ostensibly righteous defenses of the ultra rich, you just might be in that number.

And that's fine. People are certainly entitled to their beliefs and disagreements. We go through this all the time on this board. But let's maybe turn the knob down on the moral vitriol.

 

[jboss]

Box Office Jim weighs in

James Cameron compares the Titan tragedy to the sinking of the Titanic: 'Warnings went unheeded'

Appearing on ABC News in the wake of the Coast Guard's announcement that the five passengers aboard the Titan likely perished following a "catastrophic implosion," Cameron remarked on the "surreal" nature of this latest tragedy.

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[Saintman2884]

Wasn't just talking about Matt Walsh. It's a common instinct among his ilk. And from all these drawn out diatribes you've been posting about very particular historical events and ostensibly righteous defenses of the ultra rich, you just might be in that number.

And that's fine. People are certainly entitled to their beliefs and disagreements. We go through this all the time on this board. But let's maybe turn the knob down on the moral vitriol.

It’s still immoral and unethical to go online on social media outlets and openly say you’re glad, happy, and that the world will now be a slightly better place now that these wealthy tourists are dead. I’m far from being rich or extremely wealthy, but it’s wrong to openly cheer and celebrate someone’s death, no matter how much one may disagree with them politically, morally etc even if their Ted Turner, AOC, Bernie Sanders, Steve Scalise, etc.

It’s as much as a tragedy as North African, ME migrants desperately trying to escape and travel to European countries in overcrowded boats to find a better lives and they capsize and most on-board are killed. Same thing for millions of Ukrainians forced to flee from cities like Kviv, Bakhmut, Kherson, Kharkiv, Odessa over the past 16 months because some deluded, fanatical Russian ultranationalist believes Ukraine has no sovereign independent right to exist on its own without being under Russian dominance or control.

 

[texasjefe]

Sometimes I like to just use the fleshlight sleeve, without the case. Far easier to clean.

 

[Taurus]

About like this.

 

[jboss]

It’s still immoral and unethical to go online on social media outlets and openly say you’re glad, happy, and that the world will now be a slightly better place now that these wealthy tourists are dead. I’m far from being rich or extremely wealthy, but it’s wrong to openly cheer and celebrate someone’s death, no matter how much one may disagree with them politically, morally etc even if their Ted Turner, AOC, Bernie Sanders, Steve Scalise, etc.

It’s as much as a tragedy as North African, ME migrants desperately trying to escape and travel to European countries in overcrowded boats to find a better lives and they capsize and most on-board are killed. Same thing for millions of Ukrainians forced to flee from cities like Kviv, Bakumut, Kherson, Kharkiv, Odessa over the past 16 months because some deluded, fanatical Russian ultranationalist believes Ukraine has no sovereign independent right to exist on its own without being under Russian dominance or control.

Just speaking for myself here, but I'm not glad these people died. It is tragic, but it's not a tragedy of desperation. These people were not trying to escape extreme poverty or violent persecution. They weren't avoiding getting caught in the crossfire of a war they were not a part of. They were partaking in a luxury afforded to the very few in a little adventure can to look at a crusty arse ship.

And from what I've been gathering these past couple days this almost seemed like an inevitabilty. The absolute hubris of this CEO to keep carrying this operation on as long as he has is insane. The risks were present this whole time and were willfully ignored, probably without the guests fully understanding exactly how risky it is.

What I maybe am guilty of is enjoying the memes. Call me a basic birch if you must, I won't disagree with you. A lot of the memes were good. Especially the orca ones. I mean how often do we get two news cycle events that line up so perfectly for this kind of content?