Triplett says Saints Interest in Chris "Beanie" Wells is "Bona Fide" (1 Viewer)

[BleedBlackNGold]

Im so tired of this. When you have several backs that can't get 1 yard maybe there needs to be some changes on the offensive line. Its clear that we can't get any push....... and if anything should change to help the run, it should be that first.

 

[Fun Bunch]

IF (and this is a huge "if") we could trade back far enough, I wouldn't be opposed to picking OC Alex Mack with a late first round pick.

 

[mister pc]

I'd need to see some stats on that. Reggie has a good 3rd down conversion ratio. I don't know about PT.

look at DVOA and DYAR statistics from football outsiders. PT was one of the most successful backs in the NFL at getting first downs. If you think Reggie is better than PT at getting first downs on the ground, i am convinced you do not watch Saints football.

 

[GoldRush26]

look at DVOA and DYAR statistics from football outsiders. PT was one of the most successful backs in the NFL at getting first downs. If you think Reggie is better than PT at getting first downs on the ground, i am convinced you do not watch Saints football.

I'm talking about 3rd and shorts, and since I don't watch Saints football I guess I dreamt PT getting stuffed at the line at Washington when we needed a 1st down.

Getting first downs when we're ahead is a lot different than getting 1st downs when we need them in crunch time. But my opinion really doesn't matter. Obviously Payton himself isn't satisfied with PT if he is entertaining the idea of getting Beanie Wells in a few weeks, so express your frustrations to the Saints F.O.

 

[BigHossTheBoss]

This is going to be one polarizing pick this year. People are going to be upset unless we take Jenkins. I think he's probably the guy that people whine about the least.

 

[mister pc]

I'm talking about 3rd and shorts, and since I don't watch Saints football I guess I dreamt up PT getting stuffed at the line at Washington when we needed a 1st down.

Getting first downs when we're ahead is a lot different than getting 1st downs when we need them in crunch time.

i guess you were asleep during the many other times that PT did come up with the conversion. you probably were also dreaming when Reggie got stuffed at the line on third and short in Denver, fumbled the ball, and it was returned for a touchdown.

 

[saints2k8]

I'm talking about 3rd and shorts, and since I don't watch Saints football I guess I dreamt up PT getting stuffed at the line at Washington when we needed a 1st down.

Getting first downs when we're ahead is a lot different than getting 1st downs when we need them in crunch time. But my opinion really doesn't matter. Obviously Payton himself isn't satisfied with PT if he is entertaining the idea of getting Beanie Wells in a few weeks, so express your frustrations to the Saints F.O.

If I remember correctly. PT had like 8/12 in 3rd and shorts..RB was 5/12 or 6/12 in 3rd and shorts. I'll search for the exact stats. We remember the failures the most because they came in crucial/clutch situations.

 

[GoldRush26]

i guess you were asleep during the many other times that PT did come up with the conversion. you probably were also dreaming when Reggie got stuffed at the line on third and short in Denver, fumbled the ball, and it was returned for a touchdown.

Like I said, Payton is willing to take Beanie, so he's obviously not happy with the running game as is. So it's just something we'll all have to accept eventually if it happens.

 

[Rod-138]

So, would drafting a guy like Wells make PT the new Stecker?

No, but it would make Mickey Loomis/Sean Payton the new Madoff. Ponzi scheming all of our season ticket money to buy toys for himself rather than making the team better.

 

[saints2k8]

wow this was hard to find..time to bookmark it!


http://sports.kdka.com/fb/leaders.asp?type=Rushing&range=NFL&rank=016

%First Down, Run on 3rd/<3

Pierre Thomas: 6/10 #20 in NFL


%First Downs, Runs, All 3rd Down

Pierre Thomas: 9/13
Reggie Bush: 7/12

They don't include 4th and shorts..we had some failures at that.

 

[saintmike23]

If it happens, that's very likely what we will see. There has been some new developments on the Wells front that might suggest he's not going to be the pick. I have to check and see what the deal is and, if, in fact, that is the case or not.

Are you retreating? What is the new development? My guess is the Rashad Jennings meeting.

 

[saintmike23]

So, would drafting a guy like Wells make PT the new Stecker?

wow this was hard to find..time to bookmark it!


http://sports.kdka.com/fb/leaders.asp?type=Rushing&range=NFL&rank=016

%First Down, Run on 3rd/<3

Pierre Thomas: 6/10 #20 in NFL


%First Downs, Runs, All 3rd Down

Pierre Thomas: 9/13
Reggie Bush: 7/12

They don't include 4th and shorts..we had some failures at that.

A QB is leading the list with 11 of 11!!

LT is second. He's pretty big.

Maybe we should draft a big QB!

1 David Garrard Jac 100.0 ( 11/11 )
2 LaDainian Tomlinson SD 85.7 ( 12/14 )
3 Kevin Smith Det 80.0 ( 8/10 )
4t Ryan Grant GB 78.6 ( 11/14 )
4t Le'Ron McClain Bal 78.6 ( 11/14 )
6 Adrian Peterson Min 77.8 ( 14/18 )
7t Michael Pittman Den 76.9 ( 10/13 )
7t Michael Turner Atl 76.9 ( 10/13 )
9 T.J. Duckett Sea 75.0 ( 12/16 )
10 Ronnie Brown Mia 73.3 ( 11/15 )
11 Earnest Graham TB 72.7 ( 8/11 )
12 Joseph Addai Ind 72.2 ( 13/18 )
13 Steve Slaton Hou 70.6 ( 12/17 )
14 LenDale White Ten 68.8 ( 11/16 )
15 Clinton Portis Was 64.7 ( 11/17 )
16 Sammy Morris NE 63.6 ( 7/11 )
17 Larry Johnson KC 62.5 ( 10/16 )
18 Tim Hightower Ari 61.5 ( 8/13 )
19 Matt Forte Chi 61.1 ( 11/18 )
20t Justin Fargas Oak 60.0 ( 6/10 )
20t Dominic Rhodes Ind 60.0 ( 6/10 )
20t Pierre Thomas NO 60.0 ( 6/10 )

 

[Razzilon]

At least #19 is in town going to school and training for the upcoming season.

 

[GoldRush26]

A QB is leading the list with 11 of 11!!

LT is second. He's pretty big.

Maybe we should draft a big QB!

1 David Garrard Jac 100.0 ( 11/11 )
2 LaDainian Tomlinson SD 85.7 ( 12/14 )
3 Kevin Smith Det 80.0 ( 8/10 )
4t Ryan Grant GB 78.6 ( 11/14 )
4t Le'Ron McClain Bal 78.6 ( 11/14 )
6 Adrian Peterson Min 77.8 ( 14/18 )
7t Michael Pittman Den 76.9 ( 10/13 )
7t Michael Turner Atl 76.9 ( 10/13 )
9 T.J. Duckett Sea 75.0 ( 12/16 )
10 Ronnie Brown Mia 73.3 ( 11/15 )
11 Earnest Graham TB 72.7 ( 8/11 )
12 Joseph Addai Ind 72.2 ( 13/18 )
13 Steve Slaton Hou 70.6 ( 12/17 )
14 LenDale White Ten 68.8 ( 11/16 )
15 Clinton Portis Was 64.7 ( 11/17 )
16 Sammy Morris NE 63.6 ( 7/11 )
17 Larry Johnson KC 62.5 ( 10/16 )
18 Tim Hightower Ari 61.5 ( 8/13 )
19 Matt Forte Chi 61.1 ( 11/18 )
20t Justin Fargas Oak 60.0 ( 6/10 )
20t Dominic Rhodes Ind 60.0 ( 6/10 )
20t Pierre Thomas NO 60.0 ( 6/10 )

I dunno, that definitely doesn't qualify as one of the best in the NFL. PTs tied with Dominic Rhodes and Huggy Bear's baby boy.

 

[saints2k8]

At least #19 is in town going to school and training for the upcoming season.

huh?