Triplett says Saints Interest in Chris "Beanie" Wells is "Bona Fide" (1 Viewer)

[truck man]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5167

http://blog.nola.com/saintsbeat/2009/04/draft_talk_dominates_the_new_o.html

Just passing along some more speculation.

I'd say there's about a 25-30 percent chance that Wells is the pick. How's that for going out on a limb? .

didn't you ask me yesterday what percentage i thought it was they Draft Wells and i said 20%. i think he was lurking around here

 

[TurkeyOTooley]

When are the hundreds of people that are salivating over Beanie Wells going to realize that this game is won and lost in the trenches?

Our o-line is better at pass protection than run blocking, they are slightly smaller but more agile, which makes sense since our most valuable player is Brees and we should protect him first. We didn't convert the 3rd and 1's because our o-line doesn't get the push necessary to get that. It makes more sense to draft Alex Mack than Beanie Wells. He plays every down in the offense unlike Beanie and it will also help protect Brees.

As for drafting Sean Smith at 14 I have this point to make. He didn't play around a lot of defensive talent yet still was a difference maker on a team that made a run for the national championship and handled a good Alabama team in it's bowl game. Ran smooth in postional drills at the combine, then agian at his pro day and he ran fast 40 time. If you take away where the 'experts' think he should be taken at and start with a clean slate I think Sean Smith has done everything he can do to justify taking him with the 14th pick in this draft. He has the highest ceiling out of anyone we can draft at 14 and with Gregg Williams ability and history of getting the best out of his players Sean Smith is the perfect fit for us.

The Patriots 'reached' for Mayo at #10 last year and ended up with the DROY. I say that worked out well for them. You draft the BPA for your system, Sean Smith is that guy.

Well said.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

out of all the runningbacks in the NFL:
Pierre Thomas is ranked 11th in dyar, 4th in dvoa, and 1st in success rate



http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb

Under "innovative stats." That is not even a real stat, but some subjective stat dreamed up by a website. I think I would trust Payton more than that site. Thomas got stuffed multiple times on 3rd and short and goaline. Whether that was his fault or the line can be debated.

 

[money941]

didn't you ask me yesterday what percentage i thought it was they Draft Wells and i said 20%. i think he was lurking around here

Lol very true, you did say that. You deserve the props and was probably the case.

 

[mister pc]

Under "innovative stats." That is not even a real stat, but some subjective stat dreamed up by a website. I think I would trust Payton more than that site. Thomas got stuffed multiple times on 3rd and short and goaline. Whether that was his fault or the line can be debated.

ive said many times that the Saints could benefit from a bruiser power back for third and short. but we dont need to waste the no 14 pick on a RB. i agree with the poster who said that our short yardage run game would be more improved by drafting Mack than Wells.

In his first career start, Thomas became the first player in Saints history and just the second rookie in NFL history to gain over 100 yards rushing and 100 receiving in the same game.

yeah lets get him off the field.

 

[GoldRush26]

ive said many times that the Saints could benefit from a bruiser power back for third and short. but we dont need to waste the no 14 pick on a RB. i agree with the poster who said that our short yardage run game would be more improved by drafting Mack than Wells.

If the Saints have a specific kind of back with a specific skill set in mind, and Wells fits that description, and Jenkins is off the board, why is it a bad idea to pick him???? They can't count on the possibility that the guy that they have targeted in the 4th round will be there, unless they have Wells and some other back rated pretty closely, which is almost certainly not the case. All they can go with is what they see right in front of them, which is Wells sitting there at #14.

They definitely seemed prepared to upgrade the RB position, so if RB is the BPA at #14 (in their opinion, not yours) then it makes sense to go with Wells.

 

[mister pc]

If the Saints have a specific kind of back with a specific skill set in mind, and Wells fits that description, and Jenkins is off the board, why is it a bad idea to pick him???? They can't count on the possibility that the guy that they have targeted in the 4th round will be there, unless they have Wells and some other back rated pretty closely, which is almost certainly not the case. All they can go with is what they see right in front of them, which is Wells sitting there at #14.

They definitely seemed prepared to upgrade the RB position, so if RB is the BPA at #14 (in their opinion, not yours) then it makes sense to go with Wells.

running backs can easily be found in the later rounds, especially if you are looking for a one dimensional guy (short yardage power back) rather than an every down RB. And thats what the Saints need. We dont need an every down back who gets 15 carries a game. Reggie and PT should both get 10 carries a game, that doesnt leave 15 carries for another running back. If QB is BPA, i guarantee we dont take him because we already got our man. We already have Reggie and Pierre at RB. We dont need to draft someone to move ahead of those two on the depth chart because those are two solid running backs. what we need is a power back to compliment what we already have. no sense in wasting the first pick on Wells, especially when a guy like Sean Smith will be available who fills a need and could develop into a better NFL player anyway.

 

[slowmotion]

I been openly against drafting a running back at 14, but I am willing to accept it if its is a last resort. In other words, Curry, Raji, Brown, Maybin, and Jenkins are off the board and no trade offers are there, then draft wells, who I think is the best RB in the draft.

To those Wells advocates, what would you think if we traded back into the 20s, if plausible, and drafted Moreno? He would be cheaper b/c he is late first rounder, he is multi-dimensional and could replace both Pierre and Bush if they were to go down, and because he is a similar back he can spell them without revamping the offensive game plans. Also, he is really competitive, he rarely fumbles, he is durable, a very good pass blocker, and seems to be better fit for our offense. (I am not advocating this, I'm just curious.)

read his profile:
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2009kmoreno.php

compare it to Wells:
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2009cwells.php

 

[GoldRush26]

running backs can easily be found in the later rounds, especially if you are looking for a one dimensional guy (short yardage power back) rather than an every down RB. And thats what the Saints need. We dont need an every down back who gets 15 carries a game. Reggie and PT should both get 10 carries a game, that doesnt leave 15 carries for another running back. If QB is BPA, i guarantee we dont take him because we already got our man. We already have Reggie and Pierre at RB. We dont need to draft someone to move ahead of those two on the depth chart because those are two solid running backs. what we need is a power back to compliment what we already have. no sense in wasting the first pick on Wells, especially when a guy like Sean Smith will be available who fills a need and could develop into a better NFL player anyway.

Who says the Saints are just looking for a one-dimensional back??? You seem to be stuck on that. I guarantee you that Payton and Loomis don't see Wells as a one-dimensional back, otherwise they wouldn't be considering him for the #14 overall pick. Since when does Payton want a one-dimensional anything?? I guess I see why you disagree with the possibility of drafting him.

 

[mister pc]

Who says the Saints are just looking for a one-dimensional back??? You seem to be stuck on that. I guarantee you that Payton and Loomis don't see Wells as a one-dimensional back, otherwise they wouldn't be considering him for the #14 overall pick. I guess I see why you disagree with the possibility of drafting him.

Wells is not a one dimensional back, thats my point. all that we really need is a short yardage power back, everything else is taken care of. therefore it doesnt make sense to draft Wells at 14.

 

[willkro]

>>> the Saints drafted Beanie Wells with 14, but managed to draft both Derek Pegues and Zach Follett in the 4th, would people still be mad?

I'd be pretty happy with that draft.>>

I second that!

 

[GoldRush26]

Wells is not a one dimensional back, thats my point. all that we really need is a short yardage power back, everything else is taken care of. therefore it doesnt make sense to draft Wells at 14.

Well what you think the team needs and what Payton thinks the team needs may not coincide with each other. Whatever he selects would be in the team's best interests because he knows what we need more than anyone.

 

[mister pc]

Well what you think the team needs and what Payton thinks the team needs may not coincide with each other. Whatever he selects would be in the team's best interests because he knows what we need more than anyone.

Robert Meachem, Usama Young, and Andy Alleman agree with you.



this is a message board, fans are free to express their opinions even if it differs from the coaching staff.

 

[TurkeyOTooley]

>>> the Saints drafted Beanie Wells with 14, but managed to draft both Derek Pegues and Zach Follett in the 4th, would people still be mad?

I'd be pretty happy with that draft.>>

I second that!

Malcolm Jenkins / Sean Smith are >>>>>>> Derek Pegues

Clay Matthews / Conner Barwin >>>>>>>>>> Zack Follett

Is Beanie Wells that much more impressive than a guy like Andre Moore or Rashad Jennings? If you really think he is, how would he fit in Sean Payton's offense which revolves around Drew Brees and the passing game?

We need to stop ignoring defense. We are a mediocre franchise until we get it right. Gregg Williams is a great first step. Now we need to give him some more to work with.

 

[GoldRush26]

Robert Meachem, Usama Young, and Andy Alleman agree with you.



this is a message board, fans are free to express their opinions even if it differs from the coaching staff.

It could be argued that we needed WR, CB, and OL at the times that we selected all of those players. It's really easy to sit back now and say those weren't wise moves. But I think Payton is usually spot on about what positions we need to upgrade and when we need to do it.