Triplett says Saints Interest in Chris "Beanie" Wells is "Bona Fide" (2 Viewers)

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So, would drafting a guy like Wells make PT the new Stecker?
 
Razzilon said:
I just wish they would make the switch and make Reggie a WR.
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say what?

He he improved his running last year..(106 carries, 404 yards)..and is probably the best RB at catching out of the backfield. We don't win the first TB game if Bush isn't at RB and possibly get blown out vs DEN. Move him to WR when we have Colston, Henderson, Lance Moore, and Meachem??? no way..Reggie is fine at RB..he just needs to stay healthy.
 
Razzilon said:
But we are not the Giants. SP loves to pass the ball. That would be a lot of money in 3 backs with one or two of them just sitting on the bench. I just wish they would make the switch and make Reggie a WR.
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Where do I start....I said the Giants proved that 3 backs can work. I never said we were the Giants and I don't know what that means. We don't have a lot of money in 3 backs. We have a lot of money in 1 back, which would be 2 if we got Beanie. PT isn't getting paid anything.

Payton has proven that he will run the ball when running is effective. That may be one of his flaws in that he's impatient with the run game and wants results immediately. I don't think that's the worst thing in the world considering the state of our defense of the past 2 years. We couldn't afford to grind it out waiting for the run to start being effective because our D couldn't hold anyone.

It's pretty silly to think that Payton would get Wells and barely play him. Just use some deductive reasoning and realize that Payton wasn't happy with our results when we ran between the tackles early in the season. That's why he ended up passing more, not because he hates to run the ball.

And Reggie isn't going to be switched to WR. I can't think of any instance in the NFL recently where that happened.
 
Reggie is a UB... Utility Back. He lines up at RB, WR, in the slot, returns punts, can return kicks if need be, catches out of the backfield. He can do a lot of things.

He'll never be an every down back but he can be a very versatile and dynamic player for us. I don't like pigeon-holing him as a RB.

Having a bigger RB to pound a bit won't harm Reggie...it will help him.
 
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...is my pick. ;) :D :)


P.S. what is the highest we can go DOWN in the first and pick up a 3rd or 2nd round pick in a trade and what teams are those... someone should do the math with the famous draft value chart. I am at work.
 
GoldRush26 said:
Where do I start....I said the Giants proved that 3 backs can work. I never said we were the Giants and I don't know what that means. We don't have a lot of money in 3 backs. We have a lot of money in 1 back, which would be 2 if we got Beanie. PT isn't getting paid anything.

Payton has proven that he will run the ball when running is effective. That may be one of his flaws in that he's impatient with the run game and wants results immediately. I don't think that's the worst thing in the world considering the state of our defense of the past 2 years. We couldn't afford to grind it out waiting for the run to start being effective because our D couldn't hold anyone.

It's pretty silly to think that Payton would get Wells and barely play him. Just use some deductive reasoning and realize that Payton wasn't happy with our results when we ran between the tackles early in the season. That's why he ended up passing more, not because he hates to run the ball.

And Reggie isn't going to be switched to WR. I can't think of any instance in the NFL recently where that happened.
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Payton will always run a pass oriented offense. that is his style, its not going to change. and there is no reason for it to change, considering the offensive success he's had with that approach. The Giants rushed the ball over 100 times more than the Saints did last season. The Giants offense is based on the run. The Saints offense is based on the pass. The Giants needed to use 3 backs because they run the ball way more than we do. with PT averaging 4.8 ypc there is no reason to take the ball out of his hands, but that is exactly what would happen if we select Wells. just does not seem like the smartest use for our number 1 pick, considering the problems we have on defense and the superiority of our offense.
 
mister pc said:
Payton will always run a pass oriented offense. that is his style, its not going to change. and there is no reason for it to change, considering the offensive success he's had with that approach. The Giants rushed the ball over 100 times more than the Saints did last season. The Giants offense is based on the run. The Saints offense is based on the pass. The Giants needed to use 3 backs because they run the ball way more than we do. with PT averaging 4.8 ypc there is no reason to take the ball out of his hands, but that is exactly what would happen if we select Wells. just does not seem like the smartest use for our number 1 pick, considering the problems we have on defense and the superiority of our offense.
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There was room for us to run a LOT more than we did last year, and still maintain a passing predominance. Payton opted to pass in some cases because the run game was unreliable, not because he didn't want to run. '06 was the offense that Payton wanted to run, not last year's offense. In '06 we struck a perfect balance in the offense between run and pass.

You seem to like PT, but there were a more than a few times early last season where he failed to get us the 3rd and shorts that we needed in crucial moments in the game. Those moments weren't lost on Payton just because PT had a few good games later in the season when teams were caught off guard with us running. I think it's safe to say that Payton isn't completely satisfied with PT's performance.

You think picking Wells would be detrimental, but it would be just as detrimental to pick a defensive player in our spot (not named Malcolm Jenkins) just because we ranked pretty low in the NFL rankings last year. It has to be a pick that makes sense for our team. If Jenkins is gone and all's left to pick are some DEs and some roided up LB, Beanie makes a lot of sense.
 
Denzien said:
So, would drafting a guy like Wells make PT the new Stecker?
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If it happens, that's very likely what we will see. There has been some new developments on the Wells front that might suggest he's not going to be the pick. I have to check and see what the deal is and, if, in fact, that is the case or not.
 
Pierre Thomas had one of the best success rates in the league for picking up first down. try again.
 
it's been said before but you can get a rb in any round. #1 offense last year and they are worried about a rb in the first round, has to be a smoke screen. no pass rush last year, no playmaker at OLB, and back 4 was very suspect.
 
mister pc said:
Pierre Thomas had one of the best success rates in the league for picking up first down. try again.
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I'd need to see some stats on that. Reggie has a good 3rd down conversion ratio. I don't know about PT.
 
Razzilon said:
If we got Wells, who will be trade bait - PT or Reggie? I can't see any of these being a 3rd string back. We will have Bell, PT, RB, Hamilton and Wells.

I am more curious about the TE postion. We have 6 on the roster. Who stays and who goes?
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The Saints will neither trade Reggie nor Pierre if they draft Wells.

Razzilon said:
But we are not the Giants. SP loves to pass the ball. That would be a lot of money in 3 backs with one or two of them just sitting on the bench. I just wish they would make the switch and make Reggie a WR.
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That's not a lot of money. Wells would be on a cap-friendly rookie deal and it is not like Pierre is making a grip. We managed Reggie and Deuce's deal. Even with Wells, the Saints would be paying he and Pierre less against the cap than what Deuce would have counted against the cap this year. Also, it is no different than having over $200 million committed to the D-line. So are you saying that if the Saints chose Everette Brown or Aaron Maybin, you would object?

Reggie will not be moved to WR.

mister pc said:
Payton will always run a pass oriented offense. that is his style, its not going to change. and there is no reason for it to change, considering the offensive success he's had with that approach. The Giants rushed the ball over 100 times more than the Saints did last season. The Giants offense is based on the run. The Saints offense is based on the pass. The Giants needed to use 3 backs because they run the ball way more than we do. with PT averaging 4.8 ypc there is no reason to take the ball out of his hands, but that is exactly what would happen if we select Wells. just does not seem like the smartest use for our number 1 pick, considering the problems we have on defense and the superiority of our offense.
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The Saints will be a pass-oriented team, you're right. But they would like to get closer to that 55/45% pass-run ratio they were at in 2006 and not the 61/39% pass-run ratio you have seen the last two years.
 
Take the Best player available. Thats what Loomis will do. Look at his record:
2004
1. We took Will Smith and we already had darren Howard and Charles Grant. Majority of boadr wanted the next corner who Chris Gamble who was taken 10 picks later. Will Smith was great value.
2005
1. We took Jammal Brown and the board went nuts that we didnt take Derrick Johnson but Brown was rated much higher than Thomas Davis and Derrick Johnson. Brown great value
2006
1. Reggie Bush. Some wanted to trade with the Jets and take D'brick and Mangold but Bush was the best on our board.

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