Triplett says Saints Interest in Chris "Beanie" Wells is "Bona Fide"

[Cjjr72984]

Why are people (not you) saying that we should trade down as if it will definitely happen? It's not something that we can control so why even get your hopes up about it?? Some team would have to want to trade up into our crappy value spot, and with this Cutler trade going down I think that likelyhood just plummeted. And like someone else mentioned, if we do want to trade out of the spot that bad, we will likely end up getting hosed in the trade. Better to stay in the spot and live with Beanie Wells (if Jenkins isn't there).

If Malcom Jenkins is off the board at 14 and the Saints can't trade down, then I would be very content with Beanie.......provided we address defense with both 4th round picks.

 

[GoldRush26]

If we got Wells, who will be trade bait - PT or Reggie? I can't see any of these being a 3rd string back. We will have Bell, PT, RB, Hamilton and Wells.

I am more curious about the TE postion. We have 6 on the roster. Who stays and who goes?

Giants proved that 3 backs can work. A team can never have enough good backs. And they are all different anyway. Mike Bell would be the odd man out this year. Hamilton is on the practice squad.

 

[Razzilon]

If Malcom Jenkins is off the board at 14 and the Saints can't trade down, then I would be very content with Beanie.......provided we address defense with both 4th round picks.

Or our 7th round pick.

 

[Razzilon]

Giants proved that 3 backs can work. A team can never have enough good backs. And they are all different anyway. Mike Bell would be the odd man out this year. Hamilton is on the practice squad.

But we are not the Giants. SP loves to pass the ball. That would be a lot of money in 3 backs with one or two of them just sitting on the bench. I just wish they would make the switch and make Reggie a WR.

 

[Analyze This]

If you listen to truck man or realchrism, OLB is not a need at all. The Saints are happy with who they have right now. And with Matthews and Cushing possibly testing positive for steroids, I think you can lower that possibility of drafting an OLB in the 1st round from almost none to less than none.

And FS has been addressed with the Darren Sharper signing. He's just a stopgap but yeah if worst comes to worst and Jenkins isn't on the board, we have the position covered. I think the front office did a great job of covering all of their bases in FA. The Beanie thing is becoming more and more likely every day, and it would be a good pickup for us, when you consider everything I just talked about above.

Why are people (not you) saying that we should trade down as if it will definitely happen? It's not something that we can control so why even get your hopes up about it?? Some team would have to want to trade up into our crappy value spot, and with this Cutler trade going down I thin that likelyhood just plummeted.

GoldRush we finally agree on something . I have never liked the thought of picking Wells for numerous reasons: injury concerns, our OLine cannot run block, Payton does not like to run the ball enough to have 3 quality backs, PT will not get the chance he deserves, OSU running back history is not good outside of E. George, Etc. (I could go on for a while w/this list). But now that the OLB having major question marks about them, Jenkins may not be there and I don't like the DE prospect even more than Wells, I think Wells is the way to go/best value. If Raji does not fall that far down (he won't) and Jenkins is not on the board, I would be OK with Wells. Trading down is not going to be an option Sanchez was the key to that and with the Cutler trade he is gone on later than 12. The only other route is OL if they drop, maybe get an insurance policy for J. Brown? I think we could lose him next year so why not get his replacement now if possible? I must admit that the more the draft develops the better the Wells pick is looking. Jenkins 1st, Raji's a dream, OL possible but Wells is closing in IMO.

 

[TheDeparted]

So, would drafting a guy like Wells make PT the new Stecker?

 

[saints2k8]

I just wish they would make the switch and make Reggie a WR.

say what?

He he improved his running last year..(106 carries, 404 yards)..and is probably the best RB at catching out of the backfield. We don't win the first TB game if Bush isn't at RB and possibly get blown out vs DEN. Move him to WR when we have Colston, Henderson, Lance Moore, and Meachem??? no way..Reggie is fine at RB..he just needs to stay healthy.

 

[GoldRush26]

But we are not the Giants. SP loves to pass the ball. That would be a lot of money in 3 backs with one or two of them just sitting on the bench. I just wish they would make the switch and make Reggie a WR.

Where do I start....I said the Giants proved that 3 backs can work. I never said we were the Giants and I don't know what that means. We don't have a lot of money in 3 backs. We have a lot of money in 1 back, which would be 2 if we got Beanie. PT isn't getting paid anything.

Payton has proven that he will run the ball when running is effective. That may be one of his flaws in that he's impatient with the run game and wants results immediately. I don't think that's the worst thing in the world considering the state of our defense of the past 2 years. We couldn't afford to grind it out waiting for the run to start being effective because our D couldn't hold anyone.

It's pretty silly to think that Payton would get Wells and barely play him. Just use some deductive reasoning and realize that Payton wasn't happy with our results when we ran between the tackles early in the season. That's why he ended up passing more, not because he hates to run the ball.

And Reggie isn't going to be switched to WR. I can't think of any instance in the NFL recently where that happened.

 

[Fun Bunch]

Reggie is a UB... Utility Back. He lines up at RB, WR, in the slot, returns punts, can return kicks if need be, catches out of the backfield. He can do a lot of things.

He'll never be an every down back but he can be a very versatile and dynamic player for us. I don't like pigeon-holing him as a RB.

Having a bigger RB to pound a bit won't harm Reggie...it will help him.

 

[Super Dave]

Unless something goofy happens... or a trade is available...

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...is my pick.


P.S. what is the highest we can go DOWN in the first and pick up a 3rd or 2nd round pick in a trade and what teams are those... someone should do the math with the famous draft value chart. I am at work.

 

[mister pc]

Where do I start....I said the Giants proved that 3 backs can work. I never said we were the Giants and I don't know what that means. We don't have a lot of money in 3 backs. We have a lot of money in 1 back, which would be 2 if we got Beanie. PT isn't getting paid anything.

Payton has proven that he will run the ball when running is effective. That may be one of his flaws in that he's impatient with the run game and wants results immediately. I don't think that's the worst thing in the world considering the state of our defense of the past 2 years. We couldn't afford to grind it out waiting for the run to start being effective because our D couldn't hold anyone.

It's pretty silly to think that Payton would get Wells and barely play him. Just use some deductive reasoning and realize that Payton wasn't happy with our results when we ran between the tackles early in the season. That's why he ended up passing more, not because he hates to run the ball.

And Reggie isn't going to be switched to WR. I can't think of any instance in the NFL recently where that happened.

Payton will always run a pass oriented offense. that is his style, its not going to change. and there is no reason for it to change, considering the offensive success he's had with that approach. The Giants rushed the ball over 100 times more than the Saints did last season. The Giants offense is based on the run. The Saints offense is based on the pass. The Giants needed to use 3 backs because they run the ball way more than we do. with PT averaging 4.8 ypc there is no reason to take the ball out of his hands, but that is exactly what would happen if we select Wells. just does not seem like the smartest use for our number 1 pick, considering the problems we have on defense and the superiority of our offense.

 

[GoldRush26]

Payton will always run a pass oriented offense. that is his style, its not going to change. and there is no reason for it to change, considering the offensive success he's had with that approach. The Giants rushed the ball over 100 times more than the Saints did last season. The Giants offense is based on the run. The Saints offense is based on the pass. The Giants needed to use 3 backs because they run the ball way more than we do. with PT averaging 4.8 ypc there is no reason to take the ball out of his hands, but that is exactly what would happen if we select Wells. just does not seem like the smartest use for our number 1 pick, considering the problems we have on defense and the superiority of our offense.

There was room for us to run a LOT more than we did last year, and still maintain a passing predominance. Payton opted to pass in some cases because the run game was unreliable, not because he didn't want to run. '06 was the offense that Payton wanted to run, not last year's offense. In '06 we struck a perfect balance in the offense between run and pass.

You seem to like PT, but there were a more than a few times early last season where he failed to get us the 3rd and shorts that we needed in crucial moments in the game. Those moments weren't lost on Payton just because PT had a few good games later in the season when teams were caught off guard with us running. I think it's safe to say that Payton isn't completely satisfied with PT's performance.

You think picking Wells would be detrimental, but it would be just as detrimental to pick a defensive player in our spot (not named Malcolm Jenkins) just because we ranked pretty low in the NFL rankings last year. It has to be a pick that makes sense for our team. If Jenkins is gone and all's left to pick are some DEs and some roided up LB, Beanie makes a lot of sense.

 

[REALCHRISM]

So, would drafting a guy like Wells make PT the new Stecker?

If it happens, that's very likely what we will see. There has been some new developments on the Wells front that might suggest he's not going to be the pick. I have to check and see what the deal is and, if, in fact, that is the case or not.

 

[mister pc]

Pierre Thomas had one of the best success rates in the league for picking up first down. try again.