Ukraine (13 Viewers)

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[J-Donk]

I love some Zeihan.

 

[SamAndreas]

That doesn't make a lick of sense, big Ukrainian spider like drones with lots of load bearing propellers are being used by Russian forces???

What's the world coming to, next thing you know FedEx will be using Baba Yagi drones to deliver packages.

 

[baarbogast]

That doesn't make a lick of sense, big Ukrainian spider like drones with lots of load bearing propellers are being used by Russian forces???

What's the world coming to, next thing you know FedEx will be using Baba Yagi drones to deliver packages.

I think Rogozin is Russian and they are saying the Ukrainians are laying mines. An Ukrainian just happened to retweet/post it.

 

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[Saintman2884]

I wouldn't assume anything about their high level commanders. Anyway I think the world will be a better place without them after this war is over. They're the seeds for the next war, or at least they could be if they aren't managed well.

Better to disband them after this war, and end their branch of mythology, old church, and state nationalist living tradition. Not to rub them out by killing them, just disband them and try in the future to control and manage their barbarainian ways. There will always be people like that..... .

They're what's left of the Ukrainian Cossacks, descended from Vikings. It's one thing to enjoy heritage and traditions, but a completely different thing to promote barbarians at the gate in the name of conserving their heritage which stems from their ethnicity, mythology, and traditions.

Regarding your second paragraph, it's a nice sentiment but considering their active roles as fighters, commandos, partisans the Azov Brigades have performed on various fronts during this prolonged, devastating war Russia forced upon Ukraine over two years, I don't realistically see the regime in Kviv after a bloody, violent, devastating conflict they managed to win, somehow deciding to clamp down on them and try to muzzle them because many Ukrainians will view them as heroes who helped preserve Ukrainian independence. Sometimes you can't pick and choose your heroes or types of resistance fighters who combat a foreign, occupying force. For instance, most major French Resistance cells, the most effective ones, were Communist ones, and most dangerous, potent partisans the French Resistance had held far-left, socialist, or die-hard Communists. In fact, the French Resistance itself didnt start becoming a serious tactical and strategic nuisance or problem for occupying Wehrmacht, SS Das Reich divisions, Gestapo forces until German invasion of Barbarossa occured and Moscow went from being a semi-German ally to hardcore enemy overnight in late June 1941.

It was because of the success of the French Communist Resistance cells and its leadership that post-WWII, French Communist Party was one of France's most successful, popular parties, along with the Gaullists, and Socialists, for almost 25 years after WWII ended. What started their decline and later irrelevancy was their refusal to support striking, revolutionary students during the "events of May" in Paris 1968, likely the biggest, hugest internal threat to the security of the French state and the Fifth Republic since end of WWII. One reason why many French Communists denounced and criticized the May 1968 student uprisings was due to the fact that many students were New Left, anti-Soviet anarchists, and in many respects, the New Left "counterculture" in USA, France, West Germany and U.K. probably hated and despised the Old Left, die-hard Stalinists in power in the USSR, and their neighboring Warsaw-Bloc, allied nations.

About your third paragraph, usually when it comes to some radical, exclusive, uncompromising movements or idealogies, sometimes throughout history, they occur or develop due to foreign or international powers or dominant cultures, religions repressing or suppressing ethnic minorities thats leads to ethno-religious, ethno-nationalist movements or leaders saying, "We've been trying for centuries to fit in to European culture, high society, be seen or accepted as equal citizens who are allowed to vote, have freedom of religion, assembly, not be the targets of lies, elaborate conspiracy theories, in reality be treated and viewed as second-class citizens or forced to live in segregated ghettos. In some countries, we were evicted or kicked out because they'd say we were outsiders who didn't assassimilate or convert to ______ religion". This sort of absolutist thinking usually revolves around ethno-nationalism, either from dominant, predominantly majority culture or repressed ethnic, religious minorities.

 

[SamAndreas]

Today in 1940 was the day Winston Churchill gave his famous speech:

 

[Saintman2884]

Assuming Russia does get kicked out of most of Ukraine, the narrative will probably shift to "teaching them a lesson", like China did with Vietnam. Unless they lose Crimea. I don't see any way they can spin that.

Except, D.C., that 1979 border war between China/Vietnam was due to Vietnamese leadership refusing to pay back huge loans from money, resources, and arms the Chinese felt they were owed and what they'd given them during their long conflict with the U.S for well over a decade in trying to reunify the country. Vietnam refused, and also it was done because Vietnam had invaded and deposed Chinese ally Khmer Rouge's brutal, genocidal regime in Cambodia which gave us the " Killing Fields".


That war lasted maybe a few weeks at the most and even Chinese historians today as well as most Chinese who are aware of that conflict will tell you it was a mistake that never should have happened. I have often wondered if the war itself would be more well-known today and turned out differently if the initial Chinese invasion push at the beginning had actually been more successful and PLA forces had come closer to reaching or capturing Hanoi.

 

[SamAndreas]

I see a farming operation spreading liquid manure, with farming equipment. In other words usual ordinary farm operations. To decide that they are fighting back is kind of redictilus, they are spreading the manure they normally collect and spread on their fields.

Then there is the old saw about spreading """pig""" anything on something, fouls it such that Muslims will not touch it. That's a common gag line thing, but it isn't real.

That's not true at all. If they need a tool they will wash off the pig stuff and then use it. Folks have been trying to tout that old saw like it is something all of my life. I remember seeing a book reference to pig tallow being used to harass muslim merchants dating back to the early 1800's. The Christian merchants were coating iron tools with pig fat to prevent rust, as well as to stick it to them.

In that the Muslim merchants didn't actually care. They aren't allowed to eat it, but they can touch it if they have to clean up a mess. It's a case of Christians and Jews dreaming this up, and they keep coming back to it.

It's not real. If Muslims are invading Poland, spreading manure on the fields they will walk through will not likely be noticed as they trudge on through. Not after a week will it be noticed at all. During that week it will smell somewhat, but they won't know it's from pigs, or care.

 

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[baarbogast]

I may become a soccer fan

 

[baarbogast]

This sounds like the eastern front in WWII

 

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