UnitedHealth CEO shot (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

That story just reinforces my thought that there is something fishy going on.

Sadly, those absurd bureaucratic abyss rules were pre-existing and that’s just how it works (or doesn’t work).

It’s pretty strikingly similar to the experience one may have in getting a medical bill paid.

 

[Joey bourque]

I have literally turned down job offers based on the single fact that UHC was their sole group health insurance option.

I had the same experience with UHC. Fortunately I have Medicare also and Medicare picked up the tab. All UHC did was denied or discounted claims.

 

[Sun Wukong]

Any time I've read an article that covers something where I actually have some knowledge, it's invariably wrong in some key respect or omits key facts. I try to keep that in mind when reading (or, even worse, watching) news about events where I don't have any prior knowledge.

Yeah, you never realize how little journalists actually know until they do a story on something you know a lot about. It'll invariably be rife with errors and misrepresentation

 

[Eeyore]

That story just reinforces my thought that there is something fishy going on.

It seems stupid. The guy went out in public and brought his gun, suppressor, fake documents, etc. and then sat down and waited for the cops to pick him up.

Also, how many murders in New York every year and this one gets national attention and all hands on deck with law enforcement?

 

[Tapxe]

Guess who makes the call when to cut?

And who's job and salary depend on saving the CEO and boards profits.

Oh, and there's no risk that any of them will be prosecuted for a bad choice which kills the insured.

 

[saintmdterps]

And who's job and salary depend on saving the CEO and boards profits.

Oh, and there's no risk that any of them will be prosecuted for a bad choice which kills the insured.

Yup, because it’s all about profits. Do not kid yourselves that there’s any other variable in the equation

 

[Madmarsha]

So, we've all agreed that gun deaths are okay as long as we all agree that the person killed is evil?

 

[SWJJ]

So, we've all agreed that gun deaths are okay as long as we all agree that the person killed is evil?

I'm curious if people so outraged at the shooting of the CEO are also equally outraged when police shoot and kill someone. In many cases police are excused and even heralded as heroes, for shooting and killing people.

 

[Sun Wukong]

So, we've all agreed that gun deaths are okay as long as we all agree that the person killed is evil?

I'm generally less upset at the wealthy head of a glorified blood for cash business being murdered than kindergartens getting gunned down at school, or cops mag dumping into somebody who literally did nothing. Take that however you want.

 

[Madmarsha]

I'm curious if people so outraged at the shooting of the CEO are also equally outraged when police shoot and kill someone. In many cases police are excused and even heralded as heroes, for shooting and killing people.

Yeah, I only brought it up because it hadn't occurred to me that this argument hadn't entered the conversation yet, as it usually does, till I saw elsewhere someone mention it. And it always goes round and round. Look, I'm not trying to defend insurance companies, but women are throwing themselves at this guy over social media. So either we abhor gun violence or we think it's sexy? That's screwed up, man.

 

[Madmarsha]

I'm generally less upset at the wealthy head of a glorified blood for cash business being murdered than kindergartens getting gunned down at school, or cops mag dumping into somebody who literally did nothing. Take that however you want.

And does the shooter's level of hotness or whether he's got a 6 pack or an 8 pact factor into your upset? Cos there's a lot of thirsty women and men out there who are using that as an arbiter.

Again, I'm not defending the CEO or his company, just playing devil's advocate. He is still a human being and one that has lost his life as a human stand-in for a monolith that has no literal blood to spill.

And I'm not worried about Luigi's or Thompson's karmas, only my own as to how much I want to cheer what Luigi did. What if Super Luigi had mis-ID'd his prey and killed the wrong "bad guy"? I think we'd be having more of the usual gun violence arguments in that case.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

I'm curious if people so outraged at the shooting of the CEO are also equally outraged when police shoot and kill someone. In many cases police are excused and even heralded as heroes, for shooting and killing people.

There's a 284 page thread on police shootings that is still on the front page of this board, so I'd say those events get a lot of attention as well.

Speaking for myself, if a cop was laying in wait and then shot an unarmed suspect in the back and then fled the scene, I think I would feel about the same way as I do here.

I would say it's all about context but even that doesn't work because everyone's context is different. Some folks are happy the CEO was shot because they have an axe to grind with US healthcare and view the CEO as a mass murderer, just like some people rejoice when an abortion doctor gets killed because they view the doctor as a mass murderer.

That's why we have courts and judges, to sort it all out.

 

[donato]

women are throwing themselves at this guy over social media.

They see those enormously bushy eyebrows and want to know if the carpet matches the drapes.

 

[SaintInBucLand]

Yeah, I only brought it up because it hadn't occurred to me that this argument hadn't entered the conversation yet, as it usually does, till I saw elsewhere someone mention it. And it always goes round and round. Look, I'm not trying to defend insurance companies, but women are throwing themselves at this guy over social media. So either we abhor gun violence or we think it's sexy? That's screwed up, man.

It's not surprising. At one point mega corporations were loathed by one side and embraced by the other, now that seems to be switching as the sheer love of huge pharmaceutical companies and you can't dare question anything they do now because they made a certain vaccine or weight loss drug. Never mind big pharma companies have the largest fines in history due to misleading and outright fraud of their products.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

So either we abhor gun violence or we think it's sexy?

is it only this binary?