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Dago said:
The issue is that we aren't seeing a complete picture with that graph. Is that only reporting convictions?

I only ask because this New York government website shows that homicide arrests have DOUBLED since 2014 (the data ends at 2023).

I put in the filters for the five counties comprising NYC (Queens, Bronx, Staten Island, Brooklyn, and Manhattan) and arrests for PL Article 125 Homicides. If arrests have doubled but convictions have stayed the same or decreased (assuming I am correct about your graph), then there needs to be some context to explain that discrepancy.

www.criminaljustice.ny.gov

Criminal Justice Reports & Statistics

Crime and criminal justice processing data from law enforcement, prosecution, courts, and corrections agencies throughout New York State can be found here.
www.criminaljustice.ny.gov
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The chart I posted is the number of homicides (in other words, the body count) - a death ruled to be caused by another person. Homicide arrests are an entirely different metric. For example, a single homicide can have a handful of people arrested for it.
 
UncleTrvlingJim said:
It's the same reason people think crime is out of control everywhere, when it is lower than it has been a long time and continuing to decline. It's tied to the media you consume. Fear sells, so that's what you get pushed.

The murder rate in NYC is lower than in places like Jacksonville (Jacksonville also has a higher crime rate than Chicago)... but NYC and Chicago get used as examples of "out of control" murder. It's an easy story to sell and believe.
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I moved to NYC in the height of the crack 'epidemic'
lots of my performances/rehearsals were in Alphabet City/Lower East side (supposedly a bad part of the city)
my GF lived on 43rd & 10th which meant lots of walking through Times Square (before it got Disneyfied) and it was ROUGH
and while there was certainly a decent amount of property crime (mostly stereos from cars), as long as I was not trying to rob someone during a crack buy, I was never in 'random' danger
I was certainly told I was and felt I was
but I wasn't
 
Eeyore said:
What everybody seems to be missing is that it's a national story when a rich, white guy gets murdered in New York City.

People get murdered there every day. Just not rich ones.

Why do we care more when a rich one dies?
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Because it makes good news. Rich, white executive, in charge of a controversial healthcare group that just so happens to reject 35% of its claims. gunned down in broad daylight. The "why" is what makes good news. The motive. This isn't your everyday driveby. It was calculated, and had reason. Whether psychotic or not.
 
Eeyore said:
What everybody seems to be missing is that it's a national story when a rich, white guy gets murdered in New York City.

People get murdered there every day. Just not rich ones.

Why do we care more when a rich one dies?
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Isn't there a $100/M lawsuit against the company? I realize a new CEO will be appointed within a month and it will be business as usual.
 
Eeyore said:
Semi related

www.today.com

Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield Reverses Policy That Wouldn't Cover Anesthesia After Time Limits

Anthem BCBS “decided to not proceed with this policy change” after widespread outrage, including one leading anesthesiologists’ group calling it “a cynical money grab.”
www.today.com www.today.com
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People are very angry about this (and posting the BCBS CEO's personal info on the kinder, gentler Not Twitter app in the hopes of spurring a copycat killing I guess) but it looks like BCBS is applying Medicare's billing rules - they have implemented cuts on reimbursement to anesthesiologists (who make plenty).

That's what single payer healthcare does - cap payments to providers to lower costs.
 
superchuck500 said:
The chart I posted is the number of homicides (in other words, the body count) - a death ruled to be caused by another person. Homicide arrests are an entirely different metric. For example, a single homicide can have a handful of people arrested for it.
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a lot of people don't know the difference in homicide and murder
 
J-Donk said:
This is a little poltical, but I've always wondered what would happen to our economy if we had single payer healthcare.

American workers are more productive then our socalized medicine counterparts in Europe.

There is a question of why? Is that partially because our healthcare is tied to our jobs so we put a much bigger focus on keeping said job so we can stay healthy?

On the other hand, maybe it's massively holding us back. You could have spent that 25k on a new car or something instead of a repaired knee.

I also know people who would quit their jobs and work at thier small businesses full time if not for healthcare concerns.
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That was the total cost. I ended up paying about 3-4K out of pocket at the time.

Also, I tore my ACL when I had been laid off and had no health insurance. I had to wait over a year to get it repaired since I needed to start working and become fully insured again.

AFTER I had the surgery, I got a letter in the mail from my insurance (can’t remember who I had back then. Probably UHC) asking me to detail how I injured my knee, when it happened, etc. I knew exactly what they were doing. They were trying to get me to admit that it was a pre-existing condition so they could deny the claim. Fortunately, I knew better.
 
Oh Taylor .

www.mediaite.com

‘We Want These Executives Dead’: Taylor Lorenz Melts Down in Extended Celebration of UnitedHealthcare CEO’s Murder

Taylor Lorenz did everything but throw a party after UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was gunned down in the middle of the Manhattan on Wednesday morning.
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Later, Lorenz shared another post about the Blue Cross Blue Shield policy change and posted the name and headshot of Blue Cross Blue Shield’s CEO.

Over five hours later, Lorenz insisted that she did so to encourage “letter writing campaigns.”

“I hope people learn the names of all of these insurance company CEOs and engage in very peaceful letter writing campaigns so that they stop ruthlessly murdering thousands of innocent Americans by denying coverage,” she wrote. “Healthcare is a human right. We need universal healthcare now.”
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Rickboy said:
Yea, my sympathy doesn't apply to pre-existing jerks that kinda deserve it.

EDIT: So my question is, who's next? You know there will be copycats. I bet Anthem's CEO is making herself scarce.
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Her profile was already posted on social media. I'm sure that somebody was hoping.
 

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