Who is our next 1000 yard back? (4 Viewers)

[meily]

Reggie was named the starting RB because the starting RB got hurt and not because he was the best. It's also the same reason that Stecker and Thomas became the starting RB's last season.

Putting Reggie at receiver is nothing more than making sure the best 11 football players are on the field at the same time. It's been two years and Reggie has not shown that he can be a franchise runningback. No one is saying that we should get rid of him. he has obvious talent. Why not place him in a position to use that talent best (receiver) instead of where it so obviously does not belong?

Come on. Pierre Thomas has started one game and he had a better game than Reggie has had since his playing days at SC. I'm not trying to say that Pierre > Reggie. I'm saying that after that one game, Reggie's woes are obviously not fueled by poor o-line play or just the usual growing pangs of a guy new to the NFL. He's being misused like many NFL players have been.

If this is the only place you've heard this, then you haven't been listening. I have heard similar remarks about Reggie from several people, one of which was Bill Parcells.

Last I checked Bill Parcells didn't work for the Saints, so like I said...there is no "real" talk about making him a reciever, the only talk is improving him as a runningback, so that's what we should be talking about, not you turn Reggie into a reciever fantasy.

Whoever wins the starting runningback job, I'm gonna cheer for, ima Saints fan, I'm not that attached to no player, whoever makes us better I wanna see play, but that move Reggie to reciever talk is just getting old....unless you can give me a link to were Payton or Mickey said that was gonna happen, what's the point?

 

[Wheelo]

UFCSaint I'm going to save these post on my computer and repost them for you next season. We will see who is right or wrong.

 

[MLU]

Last I checked Bill Parcells didn't work for the Saints, so like I said...there is no "real" talk about making him a receiver, the only talk is improving him as a runningback, so that's what we should be talking about, not you turn Reggie into a receiver fantasy.

Congrats. You just eliminated 99.9% of the threads on this website and the justification for Andrus to spend all of his money keeping this place going.

I have never claimed that Parcells worked for the Saints nor have I ever claimed to have insider knowledge that the Saints were looking at doing this. In fact, I have never even implied it. Why you bring that angle up I have no idea. YOU were the first to mention it.

However, looking at how Reggie is used, one could make a very convincing argument that they already have done this. For the second year in a row Reggie was this team's second leading receiver and were it not for his late-season injuries, he would likely be the title-holder of "most catches in the first two years" and not Marques Colston. So, while you sit there and pout about about how it will never happen, you have failed to look around and see that it has already happened. It's just not happening in the traditional sense and its not making the best use of Reggie's talents.

You can refuse to see that Reggie is not effective as a runner, but it doesn't change anything here in reality.

You know about reality, right? It's where we discuss pointless things like Reggie moving to receiver, who we feel the team should draft and how Mike Mayock is mentally disabled. I bet I could find posts in this forum that could easily be labeled "pointless".

Pointless is you responding this post...

 

[meily]

Did you guys watch the same games as I? Did you go to them? Reggie is a great "TALENT!" Why would you waste that $60 mil by getting him injured every year? Reggie is not built to be a feature back and I'd rather not fatten him to be one. I could care less about who else has done it before because their name wasn't Reggie Bush. Reggie's talents are best suited for one on one match ups. He needs space to do his "thing" and to this point thats as a utility type player.

Think back to his first year when everyone in the league respected him because you never knew how he would be used. This drove defenses nuts and now we want him to sit back and be a feature back. WRONG! Get everyone guessing and play to his talents.

I don't know how #26 will recover and I'm not sold on PT either. But from the conclusion of last season I said that another back would need to be brought in. Even if that justs for competition, we need a power back as an insurance policy. I for one don't care for another season of rushing like last years.

Agreed.....he isn't ready to "be" the running game, we need someone else for that.

 

[UFCSaint]

UFCSaint I'm going to save these post on my computer and repost them for you next season. We will see who is right or wrong.

Hey, if Reggie can carry the load and turn into a full-time back then I will be more than happy. However, after 2 years in the NFL I just don't see it. He can't seem to break tackles and dances way too much.

 

[meily]

Congrats. You just eliminated 99.9% of the threads on this website and the justification for Andrus to spend all of his money keeping this place going.

I have never claimed that Parcells worked for the Saints nor have I ever claimed to have insider knowledge that the Saints were looking at doing this. In fact, I have never even implied it. Why you bring that angle up I have no idea. YOU were the first to mention it.

However, looking at how Reggie is used, one could make a very convincing argument that they already have done this. For the second year in a row Reggie was this team's second leading receiver and were it not for his late-season injuries, he would likely be the title-holder of "most catches in the first two years" and not Marques Colston. So, while you sit there and pout about about how it will never happen, you have failed to look around and see that it has already happened. It's just not happening in the traditional sense and its not making the best use of Reggie's talents.

You can refuse to see that Reggie is not effective as a runner, but it doesn't change anything here in reality.

You know about reality, right? It's where we discuss pointless things like Reggie moving to receiver, who we feel the team should draft and how Mike Mayock is mentally disabled. I bet I could find posts in this forum that could easily be labeled "pointless".

Pointless is you responding this post...

Reggie's receptions our out of the backfield, what are u watching, this guy isn't runnng reciever routes he is running flats and screens and when he is out wide he is running 5yrs uo field turning around and catching the ball, but I guess that makes him a reciever LOL.....so no...u can't make a case...larry centers is in the top 15 in receptions by a player....nobody mentions him as a reciever...because he was a runningback who's skills "catching" the ball made him a viable weapon out of the backfield, I guess you guys really want to see him become a wide reciever, u come up with these lame reasons why its "already happened" and you use the fact he has a lot of catches? LMAO....classic.

 

[duckjr78]

Meily, I like your never-say die attitude, but MLU makes a lot more sense. We are all Saints' fans, tried and true. But, what we are saying is don't make Reggie the #1 back. Use him in the running, receiving, and return game. 5 - 10 carries max, with a few of those as WR screens and reverses. KR and PR, and the rest of his touches come upfield. If I see the Saints hand it to this kid and watch him dance around behind the line of scrimmage for a whole nother year, I'm gonna puke. Not when I know there are other guys on this team who love to hit the hole hard.

 

[meily]

Meily, I like your never-say die attitude, but MLU makes a lot more sense. We are all Saints' fans, tried and true. But, what we are saying is don't make Reggie the #1 back. Use him in the running, receiving, and return game. 5 - 10 carries max, with a few of those as WR screens and reverses. KR and PR, and the rest of his touches come up field. If I see the Saints hand it to this kid and watch him dance around behind the line of scrimmage for a whole nother year, I'm gonna puke. Not when I know there are other guys on this team who love to hit the hole hard.

I'm not arguing with that at all, I'm talking about these Madden 08 GM's who wanna make Reggie a wide receiver, because he didn't come into the league dominating to there liking, If Reggie Bush is not running the ball effectively, put someone in that will, I'm don't want him forced into the offense, I'm not saying that at all, but he is a runningback who has receiving skills, he is athletic as h@*# so he can split out wide, that don't make him a receiver, it makes him a runningback that is athletic enough to be split wide!!


He is the 2nd overall pick and signed a 60million dollar contract, why would we not put every effort to get him better at his position? Oh yeah, because PT had a combined 200yrds total offensive game....Jez, are we that hard up to win that one game makes u the "next" great player....we already don't get much respect in this league, why be known as the team that ruined Reggie Bush?


Whoever the better back is, I want starting, or getting the most carries, I don't want him to succeed that bad that I'd hold back the team, but moving. Him to receiver? Is just ridiculous and not realistic at all, they'd put all effort into getting him better as a runner before they would even think to do that, and that wouldn't be till Bush's 5-6yr, but I seriously doubts it takes him that long to learn how to just stop dancing in the backfield and learn patience.


When you draft players this high, you have to have patience....if he was a 4th rounder you'd all be screaming what a find he was, even with the numbers he put up this year, and you "couldn't wait till next year, he's a BEAST"

 

[MLU]

Dude, he hasn't even been average, much less dominating...

 

[morals99]

Meily, I like your never-say die attitude, but MLU makes a lot more sense. We are all Saints' fans, tried and true. But, what we are saying is don't make Reggie the #1 back. Use him in the running, receiving, and return game. 5 - 10 carries max, with a few of those as WR screens and reverses. KR and PR, and the rest of his touches come upfield. If I see the Saints hand it to this kid and watch him dance around behind the line of scrimmage for a whole nother year, I'm gonna puke. Not when I know there are other guys on this team who love to hit the hole hard.

You will get your wish, b/c thats what SP does. I disagree with it, I believe Reggie should touch the ball 15-20 times out of the backfield until he proves he can't take the punishment. Don't come back and say he already has proven that, b/c he takes more hard hits on the swing passes and over the middle stuff then he does running the ball. Think about where his injuries came...usually passing plays where he was off balance trying to cut.

If you show me he can't run, i'll be content with putting him wherever he can contribute.

To the guy you just said Reggie has never been even average. Go look how many backs have had close to 100 catches and over 1100 all purpose yards two years straight. Then we'll talk about average and good.

 

[MLU]

100 catches? Only one comes to mind.

1100 All Purpose yards? Lots. However, with 100 catches, he should have 1200 yards just off the catches. As many touches as he gets per game, Reggie should be post at least 1600 yards a season. Marchall Faulk is comparable in touches and he cranked out 2000. So yeah, 1100 yards is pretty average for a guy with 100 catches and was the feature back for the season.

 

[morals99]

100 catches? Only one comes to mind.

1100 All Purpose yards? Lots. However, with 100 catches, he should have 1200 yards just off the catches. As many touches as he gets per game, Reggie should be post at least 1600 yards a season. Marchall Faulk is comparable in touches and he cranked out 2000. So yeah, 1100 yards is pretty average for a guy with 100 catches and was the feature back for the season.

This year his time was very limited. As for his receiving YPC avg. I put that on Sean Payton who uses his talent as a safety net. I don't understand how he is known around the league as fast, great leaper, and great hands, but yet we don't exploit safety or linebacker matchups downfield with him in the slot or out of the backfield. It's always the same crap, swing pass, or drag across the middle. It's the most sickening thing I see on our entire team...and that includes Jason David's play at CB.

 

[meily]

100 catches? Only one comes to mind.

1100 All Purpose yards? Lots. However, with 100 catches, he should have 1200 yards just off the catches. As many touches as he gets per game, Reggie should be post at least 1600 yards a season. Marchall Faulk is comparable in touches and he cranked out 2000. So yeah, 1100 yards is pretty average for a guy with 100 catches and was the feature back for the season.

you sound like you get your information from Fantasy Football...its like whatever he does is not good enough, he had 100catches....so you say that aint good enough, he should of had 1,200yrds off the catches?....you need to be mad at Coach Payton not Reggie, he dont call those plays...you dont have to like the guy and you can want him to be a reciever all you want, but your reason's are lame and unfounded, 1100 yrds is not average, it just isnt great...and you want Reggie to be great and until he becomes "great' your gonna continue to say he cant do it...correct? The dude is going into his third year and you comparing him to Marshall Faulk? ofcourse he wont stack up DUH! just say your dissapointed he wasnt better coming into this league as you thought he would be...its ok.

 

[ryansaints]

it will be years down the road before we have another 1000 yard back. we have to many backs spilting time.

 

[meily]

the funny thing is, were a passing offense, we dont need a dominate run game, just a consistent one, in Haslett's tenure is when we needed a dominiate run game, we all want one guy to be the man, and its not gonna happen, even if we all agree that Duece, Pierre or Reggie should be starting, the fact of the matter is Payton uses everybody...its a passing offense that needs a consistent run game, its not about individual performance when it comes to rush yrds, its how many rush yrds the "TEAM" managed.