UnitedHealth CEO shot (4 Viewers)

[SystemShock]

Removing profit from healthcare allows more resources to be directed toward actually treating people, improving outcomes, and ensuring that care is accessible to those who need it most.

On the other board, I told you you live in another world, and you keep proving me right. That sounds ideal, but in practice, it is a different story.

For starters, if there is no gross, where are those resources coming from?

 

[Dragon]

On the other board, I told you you live in another world, and you keep proving me right. That sounds ideal, but in practice, it is a different story.

For starters, if there is no gross, where are those resources coming from?

Yes, it’s funded through taxes—no secret about that. The key difference is that all the money is allocated directly to healthcare, not to CEOs, stockholders, or to sustain a complex and costly billing and insurance system. In this model, doctors, specialists, and hospital staff are government employees, and they still receive competitive, decent pay.

This approach also saves money by operating under a unified system where all your health information is readily accessible to any doctor or specialist you see. This eliminates the need for redundant tests and streamlines care.

Additionally, your health records are always available to you, ensuring transparency and empowering you to actively participate in your healthcare. The system is secured with a highly robust government login using three-factor authentication: something you know, something you have, and something you do. This ensures both privacy and accessibility, creating a more efficient and patient-centered system.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Yes, it’s funded through taxes—no secret about that. The key difference is that all the money is allocated directly to healthcare, not to CEOs, stockholders, or to sustain a complex and costly billing and insurance system. In this model, doctors, specialists, and hospital staff are government employees, and they still receive competitive, decent pay.

This approach also saves money by operating under a unified system where all your health information is readily accessible to any doctor or specialist you see. This eliminates the need for redundant tests and streamlines care.

Additionally, your health records are always available to you, ensuring transparency and empowering you to actively participate in your healthcare. The system is secured with a highly robust government login using three-factor authentication: something you know, something you have, and something you do. This ensures both privacy and accessibility, creating a more efficient and patient-centered system.

I see y’all still have some work to do
As I understand it, your taxes are supposed to go to corporations pretending to be broke so they can backdoor money to their share holders

Once your education budgets are slashed, this will all make more sense to you

 

[Eeyore]

I've heard nothing but horror stories from people who live in those free healthcare countries. Takes forever to see someone and the quality is often much lower. I'm sure theres a ton of pros to it but people act like its some utopia. I do agree, health insurance industry is probably the 3rd most scummiest industry on the planet behind politician and journalism industries.

I see three specialists. It takes me, as an established patient, 3+ months to get an appointment. It took nine months to get an appointment with my rheumatologist.

A few years ago a guy at work crushed his leg. They rushed him to the hospital. There were so few doctors available that they had to fly him to Chicago. The delay cost him his leg.

When I hear people say that the drawback to single payer healthcare is that you'll have to wait to receive care I can't help but roll my eyes.

We're so busy trying to point the negatives of others that we don't recognize that we share those same negatives.

 

[Dragon]

I see y’all still have some work to do
As I understand it, your taxes are supposed to go to corporations pretending to be broke so they can backdoor money to their share holders

Once your education budgets are slashed, this will all make more sense to you

lol - our education budget is the third highest expense, after the defense and healthcare. Remember education is free too. Including universities.

But yes. We do pay a lot of taxes....

 

[Eeyore]

I see y’all still have some work to do
As I understand it, your taxes are supposed to go to corporations pretending to be broke so they can backdoor money to their share holders

Once your education budgets are slashed, this will all make more sense to you

 

[DaveXA]

I’m now more concerned that we have another “good guy with a gun” at public dinner tables who can’t discern a joke from an insult.

Indeed, good grief. There's probably a correlation between reading comprehension and making sound decisions when carrying. Would be hilarious if it wasn't so downright frightening.

 

[DaveXA]

Im sorry, im not as smart as you. The whore mouth thing will have to be explained

That you need this explained is quite disturbing.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

lol - our education budget is the third highest expense, after the defense and healthcare. Remember education is free too. Including universities.

But yes. We do pay a lot of taxes....

don't mean to sound like a cultural chauvinist, but that just reads like a dystopian hellscape
y'all probably still expect to have infrastructure repaired if it breaks

 

[donato]

Im sorry, im not as smart as you. The whore mouth thing will have to be explained

I think he's saying you have a pretty mouth.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

While trying to steer safely away from politics, I think it's important to acknowledge a thing does not need to be perfect in order for it to be "good" or even just "better than what we have now".

If there are any other health care systems that get better results than ours or the socialized medicine route, it would be great to hear about them.

I think it's also important to define metrics when ranking a particular system. It's gotta be some sort of combination of results (mortality rates, etc) total costs overall, individual cost, access, and convenience.

 

[CapitalCitySaint]

I see three specialists. It takes me, as an established patient, 3+ months to get an appointment. It took nine months to get an appointment with my rheumatologist.

A few years ago a guy at work crushed his leg. They rushed him to the hospital. There were so few doctors available that they had to fly him to Chicago. The delay cost him his leg.

When I hear people say that the drawback to single payer healthcare is that you'll have to wait to receive care I can't help but roll my eyes.

We're so busy trying to point the negatives of others that we don't recognize that we share those same negatives.

When I tried to schedule my annual well woman with my OBGYN in July, he had no availability until January 2025. They asked if I would mind scheduling with a nurse practitioner instead. I was like fork-it, do it. The soonest availability was mid-October.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

When I tried to schedule my annual well woman with my OBGYN in July, he had no availability until January 2025. They asked if I would mind scheduling with a nurse practitioner instead. I was like fork-it, do it. The soonest availability was mid-October.

I called to schedule my yearly physical in September, and they said the soonest they could book me was mid-February... I'm still waiting.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I think he's saying you have a pretty mouth.

*nervously smiles in banjo*