The continued overreactions by fan base and media is embarrassing (1 Viewer)

Mickey Loomis drafted Jonathan Sullivan btw.
What are you saying? We could go down the list of bad draft picks and good draft picks. We could review that Loomis hired Payton and Brees. What’s your point?
 
There is so much cope going on with some of you and THAT is the embarrassing part of all of this. I get being loyal to the guys in place while they are in place, but this is getting sad.
 
There are two truths here.

1. The Saints job was not coveted by the upper echelon candidates in this cycle. Like it or not, Loomis has failed miserably for the last handful of years and the next coach faces a serious uphill climb.

2. The Saints don't need a coveted candidate from this coaching cycle. With Dallas hiring Schottenheimer and the Raiders going with Pete, it leaves a nice mix of up and comers (Kellen Moore), young coaches with some experience that might do well on a bounce back opportunity (Kingsbury) and an established NFL HC who has a very similar career profile to that of Sean Payton (McCarthy).

Now, if these three all back out, then there is only 1 truth and that is that this job has almost no appeal to anyone.
 
Mickey Loomis drafted Jonathan Sullivan btw.
Just stop with the Loomis runs the draft. If you think ML is in the war room saying " We're drafting this guy" without the HC and the scouting dept telling him who to draft. Then you really don't know how our drafts work
SMH
 
Disagree. Over reaction.
We are supposed to be upset about Aaron Glenn picking the Jets over us, and Joe Brady picking to stay in Buffalo, to mean that our franchise sucks? Come on.
Who are these “candidates” that we are treating them like NFL royalty? They have no skins on the wall or any can’t-miss prospects in their bag, for anyone to be looking at their choices as a bad reflection on our team. Stop falling for the media hype. Just stop.
You can disagree all you want. Spin it anyway it makes you feel better. Coaches rarely turn down chances to interview, it’s happened twice to the Saints this offseason. In fact your prospective makes it worse as 2 inferior coaches said “no thank you”.
 
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He failed here, ran our cap into ground trying doing so, and now we are the bad organization and Payton has no skin in our situation. Geez.
Our cap is in a terrible situation today and Sean Payton has been gone for years. Don’t you think three years is enough to time to undo problems that Sean Payton did while he was still here? Stop blaming Payton as the strategy hasn’t changed since he left and the can is still being kicked down the road. Be grateful that Sean Payton gave us the best years of Saints history ever. A run like that will possibly never happen again in your lifetime.
 
You didn’t address anything I said. At all. No one is burying their head in the sand. I am not saying the Saints are in a good spot right now. But to use the argument that AG and Brady turned us down means we are trash - no.
Try to stick to my comments. Not what you think I might be saying.
I am not defending anyone here, but the belly aching over a head coach? Not desirable? Whatever. They have the whole field to themselves now. You have no idea what direction they are going in. There are still coaches in the playoffs they may want to speak to.

Who did we really “miss out on”? Who?
Aaron Glenn? He was my first choice. I like what I seem to detect as grit and leadership. But he wanted to go to the Jets for his own reasons. I do not in any way think he went to the Jets because the Jets are a better organization than the Saints. Do you?

Brady? Not HC material at all. Sorry. I don’t see it.

Who else?

I just don’t like people making inferences that link 1 thing to another when there is no link.
Itf the Raiders job is more appealing than you, then you have a problem.
 
LOL. Randy Mueller is working this search.


McCarthy's ties to the Saints date back to the 2000 season, when former coach Jim Haslett hired him as an assistant. He was originally hired as a quarterbacks coach before Haslett decided to make him OC a week later. He was 36, the youngest offensive coordinator in the NFL at the time.

McCarthy, 61, has a long relationship with both Loomis, who was the Saints' director of football administration at the time, and Randy Mueller, the Saints general manager from 2000 to 2001. Mueller is now helping with the Saints' coaching search in an advisory capacity.
 
There are two truths here.

1. The Saints job was not coveted by the upper echelon candidates in this cycle. Like it or not, Loomis has failed miserably for the last handful of years and the next coach faces a serious uphill climb.

2. The Saints don't need a coveted candidate from this coaching cycle. With Dallas hiring Schottenheimer and the Raiders going with Pete, it leaves a nice mix of up and comers (Kellen Moore), young coaches with some experience that might do well on a bounce back opportunity (Kingsbury) and an established NFL HC who has a very similar career profile to that of Sean Payton (McCarthy).

Now, if these three all back out, then there is only 1 truth and that is that this job has almost no appeal to anyone.

You can have last pick and still wind up with the best coach, because who knows. But if ownership/front office doesn’t do anything to address the reasons WHY it’s the least attractive job, then it almost doesn’t matter.

Kinda like having the first overall pick in the draft. You can get a great player but if you don’t change all the other things that made you 2-14 then it doesn’t change much.
 

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