The continued overreactions by fan base and media is embarrassing (20 Viewers)

Mickey Loomis drafted Jonathan Sullivan btw.
Just stop with the Loomis runs the draft. If you think ML is in the war room saying " We're drafting this guy" without the HC and the scouting dept telling him who to draft. Then you really don't know how our drafts work
SMH
 
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Disagree. Over reaction.
We are supposed to be upset about Aaron Glenn picking the Jets over us, and Joe Brady picking to stay in Buffalo, to mean that our franchise sucks? Come on.
Who are these “candidates” that we are treating them like NFL royalty? They have no skins on the wall or any can’t-miss prospects in their bag, for anyone to be looking at their choices as a bad reflection on our team. Stop falling for the media hype. Just stop.
You can disagree all you want. Spin it anyway it makes you feel better. Coaches rarely turn down chances to interview, it’s happened twice to the Saints this offseason. In fact your prospective makes it worse as 2 inferior coaches said “no thank you”.
 
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He failed here, ran our cap into ground trying doing so, and now we are the bad organization and Payton has no skin in our situation. Geez.
Our cap is in a terrible situation today and Sean Payton has been gone for years. Don’t you think three years is enough to time to undo problems that Sean Payton did while he was still here? Stop blaming Payton as the strategy hasn’t changed since he left and the can is still being kicked down the road. Be grateful that Sean Payton gave us the best years of Saints history ever. A run like that will possibly never happen again in your lifetime.
 
You didn’t address anything I said. At all. No one is burying their head in the sand. I am not saying the Saints are in a good spot right now. But to use the argument that AG and Brady turned us down means we are trash - no.
Try to stick to my comments. Not what you think I might be saying.
I am not defending anyone here, but the belly aching over a head coach? Not desirable? Whatever. They have the whole field to themselves now. You have no idea what direction they are going in. There are still coaches in the playoffs they may want to speak to.

Who did we really “miss out on”? Who?
Aaron Glenn? He was my first choice. I like what I seem to detect as grit and leadership. But he wanted to go to the Jets for his own reasons. I do not in any way think he went to the Jets because the Jets are a better organization than the Saints. Do you?

Brady? Not HC material at all. Sorry. I don’t see it.

Who else?

I just don’t like people making inferences that link 1 thing to another when there is no link.
Itf the Raiders job is more appealing than you, then you have a problem.
 
LOL. Randy Mueller is working this search.


McCarthy's ties to the Saints date back to the 2000 season, when former coach Jim Haslett hired him as an assistant. He was originally hired as a quarterbacks coach before Haslett decided to make him OC a week later. He was 36, the youngest offensive coordinator in the NFL at the time.

McCarthy, 61, has a long relationship with both Loomis, who was the Saints' director of football administration at the time, and Randy Mueller, the Saints general manager from 2000 to 2001. Mueller is now helping with the Saints' coaching search in an advisory capacity.
 
There are two truths here.

1. The Saints job was not coveted by the upper echelon candidates in this cycle. Like it or not, Loomis has failed miserably for the last handful of years and the next coach faces a serious uphill climb.

2. The Saints don't need a coveted candidate from this coaching cycle. With Dallas hiring Schottenheimer and the Raiders going with Pete, it leaves a nice mix of up and comers (Kellen Moore), young coaches with some experience that might do well on a bounce back opportunity (Kingsbury) and an established NFL HC who has a very similar career profile to that of Sean Payton (McCarthy).

Now, if these three all back out, then there is only 1 truth and that is that this job has almost no appeal to anyone.

You can have last pick and still wind up with the best coach, because who knows. But if ownership/front office doesn’t do anything to address the reasons WHY it’s the least attractive job, then it almost doesn’t matter.

Kinda like having the first overall pick in the draft. You can get a great player but if you don’t change all the other things that made you 2-14 then it doesn’t change much.
 
I don't understand the hostilities. There's a couple truths....
We will have a coach
As fans we have zero control over that process

Just give it time and all this will be answered.
At this point I’m okay with elevating Rizzi . Kamara likes him so give him the gig. If it don’t work out we can fire him and try again next year.
 
What choices are you calling out?
Sean Payton?
Dennis Allen?
That’s the only 2 choices they have made in the last 15 years.
What is everybody talking about?
Save your lather for when they actually make a choice, and then start your complaining.
What choices have they made? How about almost every draft pick since 2018. Picking Dennis Allen. Not replacing PC as OC. Signing Derek Carr, kicking the cap down for the last 3 years. There has been plenty of choices that have been made that where poor. You want to stick you head in the ground and pretend like things have been great go for it. Not telling people what they can or can't do. For some reason it feels like some Saints fans just think the team should be devoid of any criticism.
 
What top candidates?
The Saints never had a chance on Vrabel and Johnson the clear top 2 candidates. Rather you belive it or not AG was considered a top candidate.

Look at the coaches we have left that we have shown interest in. Most of them have had zero to very little interest by other teams. Then you have young OC's telling the Saints no thank you like Brady did.

It's very fair to point out that the Saint's where not a desired destination, and that some very good coaches turned us down because we are not a desired destination.

Unlike some people in this thread I am not pretending like I know who the Saints should hire. I think AG would have been a fine choice, but to say for sure that he is not is just stupid IMO. Why are we making post stating opinion as fact.

Also never said the Saints still can't find the right coach. Don't know why some Saints fan just assumes that having any criticism of the team means that I think everything they will always do will be horrible. Still a Saint's fan after the last 4 years because I love them team and I want them to get better. I still belive that it can happen,
 

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