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The "what are you reading" thread gave me the idea to kick off a comic book discussion thread. I was kind of surprised that we didn't have one going already, seeing as we have a rather diverse crowd of comic lovers. So, to get this one going, I bring this news:

https://screenrant.com/superman-costume-action-comics/

And I couldn't be more excited by it! :)
 

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So what's everyone's thoughts on the decision DC recently made with Batman: Damned (the censoring, the delay in reprints and subsequent issues)? It seems to me that they caved in to pressure that wasn't really there on a comic imprint they've said from day 1 would be raw and adult-oriented.
 
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Seems to me like it kind of defeats the purpose of the Black Label concept. Did they get nervous because a handful of people were offended or some such shirt?
 
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This is the inherent problem when you try to do a mature readers version of a character that has traditionally been more accessible. If you're going to do it, you can't get cold feet at the first sign of controversy. And there's going to be controversy because this isn't early 90's Vertigo or a new character with no background. It's one of your company's flagship characters. Either commit to the fact that you're going to ruffle feathers with it or don't do it.
 

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It all makes me wonder with the ultimate order came from. Dan DiDio has never had a problem with pissing people off (he does it all the time). Makes me think the order to make a change came from further up.

It's crazy the uncensored version is selling for $60 less than two weeks after its release.
 
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I thought the comic division of DC had their shirt together? Like you said GA, this had to have come from higher up. But I still don't get it. They promoted this as being for "mature" readers. Were people expecting they'd get some cursing and blood or something?
 
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I thought the comic division of DC had their shirt together? Like you said GA, this had to have come from higher up. But I still don't get it. They promoted this as being for "mature" readers. Were people expecting they'd get some cursing and blood or something?
There has been a lot of destabilization at the upper echelons of DC the past few months. Geoff Johns left his role (or was forced out, depending on whose stories you believe) as Chief Creative Officer. However you feel about him as a creator, it was widely believed he served as a mitigating force on Publisher Dan Didio's worse instincts. Which was a good thing because Dan Didio is basically one part carny, one part loud mouth idiot. The leaking, for no reason at all, of the big Batman/Catwoman wedding spoiler to the press is believed to have been a Didio move, the kind he hadn't been making recently as he tried to be on his best big boy behavior. So with Johns out of the picture there's probably no bulwark against Didio's dumber instincts and decision making, which isn't great. Jim Lee certainly has never shown to be one, and Bob Harras (editor in chief) has no real power and serves mostly an administrative role over day to day operations as opposed to being a big creative force. Which depending on how you feel about his EiC run at Marvel in the 90's may be a good thing.

Diane Nelson also left as their Warner Bros. corporate overseer and was just recently replaced by a lady named Pam Lifford, who is heading up some weird new hodgepodge division that has lumped themed entertainment, franchising operations, DC comics, and several other things into one department. She has no real background in publishing or creative, mostly marketing and brand awareness (which is pretty much what all the non DC elements under her purview are). So who knows how that turns out. It supposedly puts DC in a more high profile corporate position, whereas in the past it was sort of tucked away and free to operate with relative freedom, only drawing Warner's attentions as an IP farm. That could be good or bad.

I don't think any of this is apocalyptic or anything, but it's certainly been a shakeup after a few solid years of stability. Whatever the case, they'll still be more coherent and logical than Marvel, which has turned into the late-stage WCW of comic book publishers minus the financial ruin.
 
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The last thing we need is another cluster**** in comics.

I'm happy that the indie publishers are really catching on more.
 

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So I was able to visit Excalibur today after my sessions were over. It's a nice place. Picked up a few things. It is the first LCS I've ever visit that did not have a dollar bin. That felt weird.
 
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So I was able to visit Excalibur today after my sessions were over. It's a nice place. Picked up a few things. It is the first LCS I've ever visit that did not have a dollar bin. That felt weird.
And no stickers on their back issues, so that's a plus. Lol.

I've never really looked through their back issues other than a glance. How are their prices on those? I know they have a large selection of new stuff, as well as collectibles and books.
 

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And no stickers on their back issues, so that's a plus. Lol.

I've never really looked through their back issues other than a glance. How are their prices on those? I know they have a large selection of new stuff, as well as collectibles and books.
They were a little pricey, but not so much as to make me walk away.
 
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You know, I never realized it but you're right, they don't have a dollar bin. That is a bit weird.

Anyway, just kinda looking at what's going on in comics recently. Chuck Wendig got fired off his Darth Vader book for Marvel supposedly for Twitter rants. A couple of months back there were rumors that Mark Waid got called on the carpet by Marvel higher ups for his online behavior and he did subsequently delete most of his online presences, although I think he's back in some. He's also currently being sued but that's Comicsgate stuff and more than I can handle. These guys really should just stay off social media. It has no benefit.

Then you hate Jim Lee and Dan DiDio doing that Batdick apology tour this past week. Word was that literally the first thing that crossed Pam Lifford's desk as new DC corporate overlord was the Batdick fiasco and she was none too happy. Supposedly this may even have her looking at the mainline books and reigning them in a bit, too. I think DC's days of relative freedom may be over.
 

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So speaking of DC, a comic book group I'm a member of was discussing this tidbit that I picked up from one of the podcasts I listen to.

With Geoff Johns no longer CCO over at DC, we've noticed some subtle chsnges in the books, but those changes are not subtle enough to them. But those changes have us thinking that Didio and Lee might be trying to bring the DCU back to a New 52-like era.

Thoughts on that...
 
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So speaking of DC, a comic book group I'm a member of was discussing this tidbit that I picked up from one of the podcasts I listen to.

With Geoff Johns no longer CCO over at DC, we've noticed some subtle chsnges in the books, but those changes are not subtle enough to them. But those changes have us thinking that Didio and Lee might be trying to bring the DCU back to a New 52-like era.

Thoughts on that...
 
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So speaking of DC, a comic book group I'm a member of was discussing this tidbit that I picked up from one of the podcasts I listen to.

With Geoff Johns no longer CCO over at DC, we've noticed some subtle chsnges in the books, but those changes are not subtle enough to them. But those changes have us thinking that Didio and Lee might be trying to bring the DCU back to a New 52-like era.

Thoughts on that...
I've actually had that feeling ever since Heroes in Crisis was announced. I have no hard proof, but it's just a feeling I have. I don't really trust DiDio not to give into his baser instincts, and New 52 was absolutely him doing that. I don't think they're bringing New 52 back per se, but I do think everything is going to be a lot more DiDio-rific again. Maybe he will be on a shorter leash this go round, though.

I miss Paul Levitz....
 

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So, Bleeding Cool stuck again, posting an interview with Vox Day (of comicsgate fame). As a result, they've finally named a new Editor-in-Chief. That should've been happened. What the hell were they thinking giving that guy a platform?
 

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