Dennis Allen Post Game Press Conference (1 Viewer)

[guidomerkinsrules]

I said this here early last year and I got absolutely hammered for it.

It is most certainly a leadership trait to be able to speak clearly and confidently and this trait is one that he just does not possess. You hear a guy stutter, ramble, use “uhh” every other sentence, sound scared or like you don’t know where your thoughts are going, etc…that stuff all matters when you’re talking about someone in charge of a NFL locker room full of lifelong alpha males.

When that trait isn’t possessed, it manifests itself in other ways that exhibit poor leadership.

It was the first sign of many for me that this guy just doesn’t have the “it” factor, and that was the first telltale sign for me that Amy Trask knew what she was talking about when she made her “And I’ll use the word ‘leadership’ loosely” comment back when he got hired here.

I’m just addressing the theory you present - nothing specific to DA
I disagree with your contention that public speaking (esp to media) is a barometer of leadership
Leading a locker room is a different animal than addressing a room of reporters- completely different context
There are plenty of teachers who are super capable in front on their classroom who then lose all confidence when they address an assembly
In the locker room you’re a strategist and motivator
In front on the media you’re a politician
Vastly different things

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Why is it that no one askes the hard nosed questions about his job or anything? No one really presses him

“hey coach, SweetT from SR.com… why are you still coaching?”
DA: “um…well ..you see…I think… that question is above my pay grade - next question “

and SweetT is never called on again at any press conference ever, loses his job and has to go back to teaching ESL at community college
That’s probably why

 

[efil4stnias]

I’m just addressing the theory you present - nothing specific to DA
I disagree with your contention that public speaking (esp to media) is a barometer of leadership
Leading a locker room is a different animal than addressing a room of reporters- completely different context
There are plenty of teachers who are super capable in front on their classroom who then lose all confidence when they address an assembly
In the locker room you’re a strategist and motivator
In front on the media you’re a politician
Vastly different things

I disagree.

20 years ago, had you stood me in front of my peers and/or media and asked me to give my thoughts on insurance, i would have never participated. I didnt possess enough knowledge or confidence to project what i thought was the right opinion at that time.

Today, 20 years later, having been thru everything i have, peering into the inner workings of both the agency side and carrier side of insurance, after thousands of meetings and conferences, speaking to CEOs and CFOs and adjusters. Meeting with LDI on different occasions. Coming away every time with just a bit more information and knowledge than i had before, i can absolutely have an informed conversation about the "how" and the "why" and what needs to be done to get a handle on the insurance market in S LA. Absolutely.

I would and can imagine there are some exceptions where folks simply cannot perform.

But ill remind you that there are only 32 positions of NFL HC in the world. 32. I would think that filling that position would, at minimum, come with the requirement of having all the confidence and ability to perform your job without lacking the one or the other.

Thats the problem here. Speaking to a room of 15 year olds is not the same as addressing men, who have spent the majority of their lives learning playbooks, honing their skills, understanding every minute detail to reach the pinnacle of their ability.

and i get what you are saying, but in this instance, you simply cannot have that inability AND be successful as 1 of 32 in the entire world.

Coaching - at the highest of levels- is a very understated profession.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I disagree.

20 years ago, had you stood me in front of my peers and/or media and asked me to give my thoughts on insurance, i would have never participated. I didnt possess enough knowledge or confidence to project what i thought was the right opinion at that time.

Today, 20 years later, having been thru everything i have, peering into the inner workings of both the agency side and carrier side of insurance, after thousands of meetings and conferences, speaking to CEOs and CFOs and adjusters. Meeting with LDI on different occasions. Coming away every time with just a bit more information and knowledge than i had before, i can absolutely have an informed conversation about the "how" and the "why" and what needs to be done to get a handle on the insurance market in S LA. Absolutely.

I would and can imagine there are some exceptions where folks simply cannot perform.

But ill remind you that there are only 32 positions of NFL HC in the world. 32. I would think that filling that position would, at minimum, come with the requirement of having all the confidence and ability to perform your job without lacking the one or the other.

Thats the problem here. Speaking to a room of 15 year olds is not the same as addressing men, who have spent the majority of their lives learning playbooks, honing their skills, understanding every minute detail to reach the pinnacle of their ability.

and i get what you are saying, but in this instance, you simply cannot have that inability AND be successful as 1 of 32 in the entire world.

Coaching - at the highest of levels- is a very understated profession.

We have umpteen examples of the opposite
Puhlenty of people who can stand in front of a crowd with little to no expertise in the topic and come off as leadership material
I won plenty of debates in college over much better prepared/researched sides bc I was much more comfortable as a public speaker

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

I’m just addressing the theory you present - nothing specific to DA
I disagree with your contention that public speaking (esp to media) is a barometer of leadership
Leading a locker room is a different animal than addressing a room of reporters- completely different context
There are plenty of teachers who are super capable in front on their classroom who then lose all confidence when they address an assembly
In the locker room you’re a strategist and motivator
In front on the media you’re a politician
Vastly different things

DA is terrible in every facet. Period

 

[St. Geezy]

I’m just addressing the theory you present - nothing specific to DA
I disagree with your contention that public speaking (esp to media) is a barometer of leadership
Leading a locker room is a different animal than addressing a room of reporters- completely different context
There are plenty of teachers who are super capable in front on their classroom who then lose all confidence when they address an assembly
In the locker room you’re a strategist and motivator
In front on the media you’re a politician
Vastly different things

I'll agree to disagree. It's not a barometer, but it's, at a minimal, a symptom of the potential of a leadership void.

Sure, some can overcome it, but they're the exception, especially when talking about a head football coach.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

it's, at a minimal, a symptom of the potential of a leadership void.

no disagreement here
Well said

 

[SweetT]

We have umpteen examples of the opposite
Puhlenty of people who can stand in front of a crowd with little to no expertise in the topic and come off as leadership material
I won plenty of debates in college over much better prepared/researched sides bc I was much more comfortable as a public speaker

Yeah but has shown (over the course of 2 years) that he has no answers and he sucks at public speaking. He literally incriminates himself time and time again. If he was being interrogated by the cops, he would fold under questioning

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Yeah but has shown (over the course of 2 years) that he has no answers and he sucks at public speaking. He literally incriminates himself time and time again.

I’ll reiterate

I’m just addressing the theory you present - nothing specific to DA

 

[Jesse Custer]

There is no quicker way to lose me in a conversation than to constantly say “uh”, “like” and “you know” multiple times during a conversation. My mind goes from what you are trying to communicate, to counting how often I hear those words come out of your mouth.

I've worked really hard to never use filler words or sounds in conversation and some people have told me it's a little disconcerting to talk to me because of it. At most, you might hear a pause while my mouth tries to figure out what the hell I just thought, but it weirds people out.

 

[SweetT]

I’ll reiterate

I’m just addressing the theory you present - nothing specific to DA

But we are addressing , no one else.



If we have to compare the two. Here is McVay after last night. Keep in mind that this dude’s team was 3-6 at one point. He figured it out and now his team is rolling. We are the opposite. Check out the difference between McVay and .
One is a HC and leader of men. The other is blinded by headlights

 

[Pensacola]

I said this here early last year and I got absolutely hammered for it.

It is most certainly a leadership trait to be able to speak clearly and confidently and this trait is one that he just does not possess. You hear a guy stutter, ramble, use “uhh” every other sentence, sound scared or like you don’t know where your thoughts are going, etc…that stuff all matters when you’re talking about someone in charge of a NFL locker room full of lifelong alpha males.

When that trait isn’t possessed, it manifests itself in other ways that exhibit poor leadership.

It was the first sign of many for me that this guy just doesn’t have the “it” factor, and that was the first telltale sign for me that Amy Trask knew what she was talking about when she made her “And I’ll use the word ‘leadership’ loosely” comment back when he got hired here.

Totally agree and I have posted pretty much the same summation several times. That’s what gets me about ML. Mickey has known DA how long ‘before’ he hired him to be our head coach. Did he not see these weaknesses over the years and say to himself, this guys not head coach material.

 

[efil4stnias]

We have umpteen examples of the opposite
Puhlenty of people who can stand in front of a crowd with little to no expertise in the topic and come off as leadership material
I won plenty of debates in college over much better prepared/researched sides bc I was much more comfortable as a public speaker

I dont disagree in that aspect.

I think there are plenty of examples - but "speaking well" isnt the same as "saying what you mean and meaning what you say" ( so to speak )

You can win a debate against lesser abled speakers on a topic in front of a panel of 3. But if the core information you are speaking about is going in direct contrast to what everyone can see/knows, it doesnt matter how well you speak, as it quickly becomes apparent that you are either conning us or you have no idea what you're talking about.

I will add...children are quite adept at seeing right thru the BS- dont know how, dont know why- maybe from the years of learning how to manipulate in the early years, but they have an uncanny ability to sense "BS"

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

But we are addressing , no one else.



If we have to compare the two. Here is McVay after last night. Keep in mind that this dude’s team was 3-6 at one point. He figured it out and now his team is rolling. We are the opposite. Check out the difference between McVay and .
One is a HC and leader of men. The other is blinded by headlights

Did McVay all of a sudden get better at press conferences and this making him a better leader?

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I dont disagree in that aspect.

I think there are plenty of examples - but "speaking well" isnt the same as "saying what you mean and meaning what you say" ( so to speak )

You can win a debate against lesser abled speakers on a topic in front of a panel of 3. But if the core information you are speaking about is going in direct contrast to what everyone can see/knows, it doesnt matter how well you speak, as it quickly becomes apparent that you are either conning us or you have no idea what you're talking about.

I will add...children are quite adept at seeing right thru the BS- dont know how, dont know why- maybe from the years of learning how to manipulate in the early years, but they have an uncanny ability to sense "BS"

It’s because they haven’t gone through the crucible of puberty- puberty/middle school completely scrambles our sense of self and (often) makes the group’s opinion of us more important than our own - so we’ll believe a lie if it keeps us at the cool kids table
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