Dennis Allen Post Game Press Conference (2 Viewers)

[efil4stnias]

I'll agree to disagree. It's not a barometer, but it's, at a minimal, a symptom of the potential of a leadership void.

Sure, some can overcome it, but they're the exception, especially when talking about a head football coach.

it most certainly is a barometer. Not the end all be all, but it plays a role - a big one.

and ill reiterate what i said previously- DA holds 1 of only 32 jobs in the whole world. Head Football Coach of an NFL team. That position MUST require the very best in just about every facet of the game. If you lack ability in public speaking then you best be able to over-achieve somewhere else since the public speaking part is part of being a HC and getting your point across to the masses.

 

[SweetT]

Did McVay all of a sudden get better at press conferences and this making him a better leader?

McVay has always been comfortable speaking in front of people. Sure he’s had some cases where he was deflated after a loss, but that’s the case with every HC. The point is, McVay was dealt some tough blows to his team this year early on. He could’ve just given up, but he made the necessary adjustments, and kept his team’s spirits high bc he believed in his coaching ability. He figured it out. They lost their #1 WR and relied on an unproven rookie. They once had zero run game when Williams went down. They have 9 new starters on their defense. Stafford was considered “washed” and “disinterested”. is almost done with his 2nd season and still can not call a complete game and we still can not consistently do the things that we are great at. He’s blind, clueless, or ignorant.

 

[Jesse Custer]

Well, it's not necessarily public speaking skill; it's charisma. You can be a bad public speaker and still be charismatic and be perceived as confident.

 

[St. Geezy]

But we are addressing , no one else.



If we have to compare the two. Here is McVay after last night. Keep in mind that this dude’s team was 3-6 at one point. He figured it out and now his team is rolling. We are the opposite. Check out the difference between McVay and .
One is a HC and leader of men. The other is blinded by headlights

Confidence, charisma, clear and concise...that's what I want representing my franchise in that position.

He doesn't necessarily need to be a funny guy, but I just want someone that when he walks in the room, you know and feel like he is the guy that's in charge and has all the answers.

 

[Elvis]

I’ll reiterate

I’m just addressing the theory you present - nothing specific to DA

Why? Why are you addressing leadership theory and your college debate team in a thread about how bad of a leader, coach and speaker DA is? St. Geezy presented his theory in this specific context of an NFL football team filled with alphas and DAs beta personality.

I'll admit, I am cranky having just woken up and seeing that DA wasn't fired while I was sleeping.

 

[SweetT]

Confidence, charisma, clear and concise...that's what I want representing my franchise in that position.

He doesn't necessarily need to be a funny guy, but I just want someone that when he walks in the room, you know and feel like he is the guy that's in charge and has all the answers.

Exactly. Players look up to their leader. If their leader shows them that he can lead, then they will follow. We can not be this far into the season, still “trying to figure things out”. Players are not stupid. They know when they are being blindly led. In fact, I would argue that we are still trying to figure stuff out since last season

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

Why? Why are you addressing leadership theory and your college debate team in a thread about how bad of a leader, coach and speaker DA is? St. Geezy presented his theory in this specific context of an NFL football team filled with alphas and DAs beta personality.

I'll admit, I am cranky having just woken up and seeing that DA wasn't fired while I was sleeping.

Bc it baits a trap - we’re all desperate for an anti-DA which potentially sets up us to be taken in by a charismatic empty suit

 

[SweetT]

Bc it baits a trap - we’re all desperate for an anti-DA which potentially sets up us to be taken in by a charismatic empty suit

I don’t believe that. We are not looking for a politician, just a dang viable head coach. I don’t care about an anti- . I just want a dang HC that can make adjustments, have his team prepared every week, has some confidence, can figure out problems, know how to utilize their main pieces, be creative, be willing to adapt, and make me believe that there are better days on the horizon. @guidomerkinsrules, you are my guy, but has failed for two consecutive seasons dealing with the same nonsense. He just doesn’t have it or get it. You can’t sit there and type in defense for this guy. The football Gods did us the biggest solid this year with the schedule. fumbled it. Even would say that he hasn’t done a good enough job bc that’s basically what he IS saying in his press conferences

 

[Elvis]

Bc it baits a trap - we’re all desperate for an anti-DA which potentially sets up us to be taken in by a charismatic empty suit

A trap for who? You don't think the next coach will come with a resume of coaching football? You think Loomis is going to get taken by a snake oil saleman with a shifty sales pitch? Come on now. That isn't what anybody is saying. Yes, we want a leader of men that can also coach. An alpha that can communicate, inspire and not be intimidated by the players in the locker room. We're not talking about want Loomis to hire Tony Robbins.

 

[St. Geezy]

I've worked really hard to never use filler words or sounds in conversation and some people have told me it's a little disconcerting to talk to me because of it. At most, you might hear a pause while my mouth tries to figure out what the hell I just thought, but it weirds people out.

Yep, I do the same in most formal settings. Talking to a friend, I don't care, but if I am in front of a staff or at some sort of business event, I speak directly, eliminate the "uhs," etc.

I feel that same thing from you; it's almost like "intimidating" to some folks. But I guess in some form or fashion at least a slight form of intimidation is a part of being a leader and, to the point of this thread, what we need to see from a NFL head coach.

 

[TenTwo]

The fact that the team goes into every game fearful, is taking on head coaches personality, I say fearful, because they seem like they are feeling the other team out first before they decide to play. If they feel the other team is playing harder, then they fold. And they don’t want to win. You can tell this is true, because once they back into a position where they can take a lead or assert themselves, they shoot themselves in the foot. Taking sacks. Dropping key passes, 87, 83, 12. Making decisions based off of fear, onside kicks, punting in Fg position. Keeping players out of the game that do not fold, 80. Only being able to make plays after the outcome has been decided. It takes courage to win. And fearfulness is like a plague, that spreads. And it’s the coaches job to identify team plagues. But it’s clear that the HC is the carrier of such plague. Im just calling what I’m seeing.

You

Effing

Nailed it.

 

[efil4stnias]

Bc it baits a trap - we’re all desperate for an anti-DA which potentially sets up us to be taken in by a charismatic empty suit

But isnt that "trap" ever-present?

Thats why we rely on historical context, the interview process and the like. Now, we may have an issue at the top too - that makes the determination post-interview.

And ill add this caveat- a HC can be only as good as the people he surrounds himself with ( OC/DC, staff etc )

Here we have HC that is ALSO THE DC. An OC that didnt want the job initially. DA is responsible for this. Not Loomis. Not Gayle. DA has the main imput regarding his staff.

Just another example of his inability.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

A trap for who? You don't think the next coach will come with a resume of coaching football? You think Loomis is going to get taken by a snake oil saleman with a shifty sales pitch? Come on now. That isn't what anybody is saying. Yes, we want a leader of men that can also coach. An alpha that can communicate, inspire and not be intimidated by the players in the locker room. We're not talking about want Loomis to hire Tony Robbins.

I remember Ditka

 

[VPCajun]

After last weeks win against the Giants Dennis Allen made it a point to go out of his way to praise Derek Carr’s great performance (which it was). While well deserved, it was a bit odd as nobody in the press asked for that opinion, and DA really forced the point.

Does anyone know if DA has gone out of his way in the press conference to discuss Derek’s performance tonight? It seems only right that he would make a point to discuss DC’s performance good, bad, or neutral at this point.

FWIW:

C/ATT	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	SACKS	QBR	RTG
27/40	319	8.0	3	1	2-15	73.2	106.1

 

[efil4stnias]

I remember Ditka

and Kuharich.

Dark times.