Haener film looks better than Young. (1 Viewer)

[bobad]

all you have to do is go back and read about how a lot of people thought Steve Walsh looked better than Troy Aikmen.. we all know that ended..

You're right, and some said Burrow would be a career backup. They're just setting themselves up to look foolish.

All you can do at this stage is assess their tools, which tells us their potential, and then guess how they'll adapt. It can be fun to guess if we don't take it too seriously.

 

[Get in the Carr]

Throwing 50 yards accurately. That would be a pretty low bar even for a JUCO QB.

But it’s not just the 50+ yard throws (not even primarily). It’s throwing out-routes and tight-window throws with zip. The last two years of Brees’ career proved that even with the best anticipation, a weak arm can only get you so far.

And to me, Haener’s arm strength looks a lot like 2019-20 Brees. You’re free to disagree, but I’m not too optimistic about his ceiling.

I’d take reading defenses over being able to throw 60 yard bombs and 50 yard outes

 

[Mamba]

I’d take reading defenses over being able to throw 60 yard bombs and 50 yard outes

The vast majority of successful NFL QBs can do both. Your namesake, for example.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

You're right, and some said Burrow would be a career backup. They're just setting themselves up to look foolish.

All you can do at this stage is assess their tools, which tells us their potential, and then guess how they'll adapt. It can be fun to guess if we don't take it too seriously.

No one said Burrow would be a career backup after being drafted #1 overall.

 

[SAINTSFAN]

Way too early to come to any conclusion on Haener. He has not even stepped onto an NFL field yet. Seems some want to make a conclusion on him either way based on watching games on TV, youtube videos, or internet scouting. Let's let him get some playing time and go from there.

 

[bobad]

Way too early to come to any conclusion on Haener. He has not even stepped onto an NFL field yet. Seems some want to make a conclusion on him either way based on watching games on TV, youtube videos, or internet scouting. Let's let him get some playing time and go from there.

Agree! One can accurately assess metrics, talents, and skills, but it's foolish to try to predict or make a conclusion on a player's career!

It's not foolish at all and a lot of fun to guess though, so I won't throw wet blankets on people's fun.

 

[Swampy Saint]

Just an aside.......Haener should improve in every category now that he's in the pro's.

 

[bigdaddysaints]

I’d take reading defenses over being able to throw 60 yard bombs and 50 yard outes

JaMarcus Russell doesn't approve of this post. lol

 

[SquatchySaint]

JaMarcus Russell doesn't approve of this post. lol

Ryan Leaf is watching....

 

[Big_L]

Ryan Leaf is watching....

With Heath Schuler . . .

 

[Boy_of_wonder75]

I'm going to be charitable and assume the OP is referring to the quality of the "film" itself. Perhaps Haener's footage was shot in higher definition than Young's. Yeah, that's probably it.

 

[robsmith32]

Ryan Leaf wasn't a bust because of lacking talent....
he lacked being able to handle failure.
there is more to the mental aspect of qb than there is physical. which is why brees did so well. he had just enough physical trait, and had the mental out the park.

 

[liveoakh]

You're right, and some said Burrow would be a career backup. They're just setting themselves up to look foolish.

All you can do at this stage is assess their tools, which tells us their potential, and then guess how they'll adapt. It can be fun to guess if we don't take it too seriously.

Joe was coming off the greatest QB season in college football history. Winning againest 5 of the top teams and defenses on the way to a natty.

 

[livefromDC]

Ryan Leaf wasn't a bust because of lacking talent....
he lacked being able to handle failure.
there is more to the mental aspect of qb than there is physical. which is why brees did so well. he had just enough physical trait, and had the mental out the park.

Let's not let the last few years of Brees' career reimage who he was. Drew Brees was an amazing athlete. He was really good at multiple sports (tennis and basketball) and had a really good arm with insane accuracy. Saying he had just enough physical traits doesn't do him justice.

 

[HouseCall]

all you have to do is go back and read about how a lot of people thought Steve Walsh looked better than Troy Aikmen.. we all know that ended..

To be fair, it was mostly Jimmy Johnson saying that Walsh was better than Aikman, because he knew he could fleece someone into taking Walsh off their hands for some draft capital.

Jimmy J was the original Bill Belichick.