Hiring Moore = Ashton Jeanty as 1st rd pick? (32 Viewers)

[Rouxble]

What if Jeanty is there, and the Cowboys offer a 1st and 3rd to move up to your spot? If it were me, I would trade back.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

So with Lamar/Henry, Hurts/Barkley, Montgomery/Gibbs you see how dominant a run first team can be.

All 3 of your examples are dominant because of their OLINE and not RBs.

Henry lead the Titans nowhere.

Barkley lead the Giants nowhere.

Lions are fueled by their top 2 Oline and 2nd in the entire league in RB yards before contact.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

I with the ones saying Moore being heavy on the run in Philly is due to the roster make up. Hurts doesnt stand in the pocket and pick you apart. He's an escape artist with the wheels to burn you. Having a QB with that skillset, an elite RB, and an elite OL... a run heavy offense is a no-brainer. Same story in Baltimore. It does show that Moore isnt one of those single-minded coaches that doesnt maimize the strengths of his players. Thats a plus.

As far as Jeanty at #9. Thats a bit of a stretch to me, but there is the Boise state connection. I guess that depends on how he wants to build his offense and how he feels about what AK is at this point in his career. It makes sense to have a superstar on the roster ready to take the place of an aging and expensive superstar.

I do wonder what kind of QB Moore would want. He's had Dak and Herbert, but Hurts brought him to the Superbowl. Does he try and find a read-option type QB? If so, is there a QB in this draft somewhere that fits that type system? Or does he revert to more of a pass happy offense?

Ironically, as Brady pointed out, it was when Hurts stayed int he pocked and deliverd the ball on time that he looked his most dangerous. When the picture was muddy, and he didn't see things clear and started to scramble/hold the ball for 4-5 seconds is when he looked a hell of a lot worse. Jalen will however absolutely throw the ball away and not make the play worse vs forcing a pass. So it balanced things out.

What if Jeanty is there, and the Cowboys offer a 1st and 3rd to move up to your spot? If it were me, I would trade back.

Absolutely, lots of good runners in this draft. At the very least....you draft a RB somewhere between rounds 1-3 and he makes another RB expendable. Like what happened w/ Kamara and we traded AP. Though in this case I believe Miller would be back that gets traded.

 

[St. Geezy]

I saw one mock draft where Carter is going at 8. That's just one pick below the Saints. Anything could happen at the 9th position. To say he will be long gone is a stretch.

He’ll be top 4 by draft night IMO.

 

[St. Widge]

They won't get Jeanty because they are no match for other team's aggressiveness with drafting or bringing in playmakers.

Yeah, when have the Saints ever thrown caution to the wind and aggressively traded up for a player?

 

[LSPSaint]

Let's say McMillan and Jeanty are both there at 9. McMillan solves a huge need as a contested catch guy, but Jeanty is a more elite prospect but our O-line this year probably won't let him look elite.

Who would you guys and gals take?

OL and DL all day long. Build the trenches.

 

[BBarnes]

round 5*

lol definitely the third

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Yeah, when have the Saints ever thrown caution to the wind and aggressively traded up for a player?

Wasn't it in 2000 lol

 

[nakadish]

All 3 of your examples are dominant because of their OLINE and not RBs.

Henry lead the Titans nowhere.

Barkley lead the Giants nowhere.

Lions are fueled by their top 2 Oline.

I would argue (because I like to argue ) that it's both. Those elite RBs have elite traits that other RBs don't. If you put an average RB behind an elite O-line, you will certainly get an improvement by the RB, but not elite. A good O-line can't make a slow RB fast. Once the RB gets past the line of scrimmage, it's out of the O-line's hands. If you put an elite RB behind a good O-line, do you get the same results as a good RB behind an elite O-line? I don't know. But I tend to think that elite RB + good OL > good RB + elite OL.

 

[Optimistic Ozzy]

I'd love to have Jeanty, but we need to draft 1st round either Defensive or offensive line.

 

[JackDiesel]

All 3 of your examples are dominant because of their OLINE and not RBs.

Henry lead the Titans nowhere.

Barkley lead the Giants nowhere.

Lions are fueled by their top 2 Oline.

Derrick Henry was the wrong example for you to use. He led the Titans to 4 playoff appearances in 7 years with freaking Marcus Mariotta and Ryan Tannehill at QB. They won 3 games after he left.

Barkley had his best season in 2022 and helped Daniel Jones look average enough to land a big contract. As soon as Barkley left the wheels completely fell off and Jones got cut mid-season. They won 3 games after he left.

 

[DeuceMcAllisterFan]

If Jeanty is the best player on the board, you have to take him.

I was against it prior to our head coaching direction but now that we know it's probably going to be Moore, we need to take best talent available regardless of position even if its a runningback. We need to stop reaching for need and start building this roster around special talent when we can actually be in position to land one.

The more foundational young talent we can add to the roster, the better off we'll be going forward. We just need big time talent.

 

[St. Widge]

What if Jeanty is there, and the Cowboys offer a 1st and 3rd to move up to your spot? If it were me, I would trade back.

That would be my preferred option as long as we think there will be a good player on the board at the Cowboys pick. For instance, it might makes sense to take Warner at #12 depending on what his speed and agility numbers are and what type of offense the new HC wants.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Those elite RBs have elite traits that other RBs don't. If you put an average RB behind an elite O-line, you will certainly get an improvement by the RB, but not elite.

Jamaal Williams lead the entire league in TDs with the Lions and immediately looked awful for the Saints.

DeAndre Swift went from 5.5 ypc with the Eagles (top 3 OL) to 4.6 ypc with the Lions (top 3 OL) to 3.8 with the Bears

 

[Judge_Smails]

What if Jeanty is there, and the Cowboys offer a 1st and 3rd to move up to your spot? If it were me, I would trade back.

I really love Jeanty, but that would be tough to turn down and especially if another elite prospect like Warren was going to be there at 12.