Lord of the Rings Series -- Amazon (2 Viewers)

[bonnjer]

Just finished the first two episodes. The quality is astounding. I know it's Lord of the Rings and all and that they weren't going to skimp, but wow. It had me hooked from the start.

 

[Cage1]

This is a perfect example of when the anti-wokers take over and review bomb. I'm not saying the critics are the end-all be-all of accuracy, but most shows find commonality between the two aggregate scores (within 10 points or so). Look at Iron Man, Captain America, Thor . . . they're all within a few points. Then look at Captain Marvel, She-Hulk, and Black Panther. Looks more like this. Bunch of insecure incels.

 

[Hoodoo]

I feel fairly confident that it's not Gandalf at least. Those fireflies died after he used them and he broke someone's ankle so I also doubt that he is a good guy.

I don't think he had anything to do with breaking the ankle. I think it was more the consequence of Nori shirking her duties. She was supposed to be helping with the festival preparations and since she was with the stranger her father was taking up her slack. His injury presumably resulting in her family being left behind during their migration.

 

[Scorpius the Allfather]

I don't think he had anything to do with breaking the ankle. I think it was more the consequence of Nori shirking her duties. She was supposed to be helping with the festival preparations and since she was with the stranger her father was taking up her slack. His injury presumably resulting in her family being left behind during their migration.

Nah, he did it. I'm not saying it was on purpose but he clearly broke his ankle. It didn't slip, it looked like an invisible hand snapped it.

 

[Paul]

Watched both episodes and thoroughly enjoyed them. Easy to follow and very entertaining.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

I don't think he had anything to do with breaking the ankle. I think it was more the consequence of Nori shirking her duties. She was supposed to be helping with the festival preparations and since she was with the stranger her father was taking up her slack. His injury presumably resulting in her family being left behind during their migration.

mm…I think they were telling us those things were connected
Not sure MM ‘caused’ it, but they’re connected

 

[Hoodoo]

Nah, he did it. I'm not saying it was on purpose but he clearly broke his ankle. It didn't slip, it looked like an invisible hand snapped it.

Totally missed that, but I planned on watching it again anyway.

 

[Sailorsaint]

Not really, but more like when spoilers are baked into the premise. What are the stakes here? We know ultimately that Galadriel will fail in her task.

And I liked the first episode. I'm sure I'll like the rest of the show. I'd just rather see this sort of production value in an original world where we don't come in already knowing the fate of the major players.

I know the result of WWII, but I still enjoy seeing how it came about. I think that is the appeal in this series, for me anyway.

 

[TheRealJRad]

Is this series worth the watch will all the other great shows on right now plus more to come in the next 2 months?
I'm somewhat familiar with Tolkien but never had interest in the 2nd age. So I'm not sure if I should even start watching.
Is it a good show or is it just cool because it's LOTR related?

I don‘t know the lore. They’re setting the table right now, but I’m fine being patient with that. Basically, I’m enjoying the story without “knowing the story“, and I’d still recommend watching.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

All well said
And/but it’s the nature of adaptation
Mary Magdalene was mentioned briefly in a few stories but there were several other unnamed women - on subsequent retellings MM gets synthesized from 5 or 6 women
Peter Dinklage looks nothing like book Tyrion
And on and no

And I agree that the dynamics between book lore and tv adaptation COULD (and does) offer rich discussion
BUT it’s also a Trojan horse that review bombers use to mask their sexism, racism, et al
(tbc I’m not coming anywhere close to painting you with that brush)

So, I get that there are neckbeards out there ruining everything, but it's my god given right to nerd out over obscure sheet, and criticize creative choices that don't reflect my understanding of the story, and I'll be damned if I let them take that away from me.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

So, I get that there are neckbeards out there ruining everything, but it's my Eru Ilúvatar given right to nerd out over obscure sheet, and criticize creative choices that don't reflect my understanding of the story, and I'll be damned if I let them take that away from me.

fify

 

[Consigliere]

As to the other thing
I’d love to see a Venn diagram of people upset about Elves of color who also believe in a white Jesus
I’m imagining pretty dang close to a circle

It's not hard. Elves were Caucasian in the Middle-Earth stories, and Jesus was Semitic in the Gospel stories, because the authors of those stories said so.

Skin color and lack of beards aside, there's just so very much in this show that's directly opposite what was established by Tolkein. It's fanfiction.

That sums it up. Black elves are good in the Witcher. But they're not Tolkien. And pre-show, that (and a swashbuckling Galadriel) was all we had to go on. It was clear that we would not be getting Tolkien, thus the low expectations.

Now that it is out, Rings of Power exceeds expectations. It is a good show, like the Witcher. Both are imitating Tolkien, but not as great.

Kind of like The Godfather Part III.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

It's not hard. Elves were Caucasian in the Middle-Earth stories, and Jesus was Semitic in the Gospel stories, because the authors of those stories said so.

That sums it up. Black elves are good in the Witcher. But they're not Tolkien. And pre-show, that (and a swashbuckling Galadriel) was all we had to go on. It was clear that we would not be getting Tolkien, thus the low expectations.

Now that it is out, Rings of Power exceeds expectations. It is a good show, like the Witcher. Both are imitating Tolkien, but not as great.

Kind of like The Godfather Part III.

So what changes in the ‘canon’ if races of elves are different than what you imply was text?

 

[Crzycjunx76]

So what changes in the ‘canon’ if races of elves are different than what you imply was text?

This is where I am as well... I do not see an issue with what is being done here. I dont see anything core to the story that is harmed by adding diversity in appearance.

I had a bit of a problem with it in WoT because the Two Rivers was an isolated community as a core part of the story. They were in no way multi-cultural or racial, they were actually quite zenophobic and mistrustful of outsiders. Rand stuck out like a sore thumb for hisappearance, and later when refugees started pouring in to the area it was a big deal that they were not just accepted, but embraced.

Of course WoT has been thouroughly butchered in its adaptation either way.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]