Mickey Loomis’ End Of Year Press Conference (1 Viewer)

[StudioSaint]

Sure but said posters are merely voicing their opinion and not running a multi-billion dollar sports franchise.

That doesn't change the fact most of the loudest and most active posters on this site suffer from thinking they are too clever to be wrong about what they think and believe. It's classic Dunning–Kruger effect.

 

[DSnfla]

He looks like a man who is really enjoying the spotlight.

Continues to find any excuse he can in terms of Trevor Penning and Payton Turner.

He's said the EXACT things I've been saying about Penning. They are NOT excuses they are facts If you don't take into consideration those things then you are blind or lazy and just looking for low hanging fruit

 

[DSnfla]

Veterans that think we can't afford to cut them are largely correct.

Watch

 

[Elvis]

Watch

I will. I will watch us restructure a bunch of players we shouldn't so we can move on from one player that we should never have restructured in the first place.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

The body language is really weird.

Loomis is chomping on gum. Loudly and rapidly.

Yanked out a piece of paper from his back pocket to rattle off a list of great coaches who had rough seasons their first few years to defend DA.

He seemed more passionate than normal. Passion is good

 

[DSnfla]

Fans aren't employees, fans don't care how the cake is made they just want the cake to taste good.

But cake eaters when the cake is not as good as it was before don't criticize, critique ask what and why you use each and every ingredient and say "You should have used all-purpose flour instead of self rising " Say the baker is a bum and does not know what he's doing even though he's been a baker at a high level before. When NONE of them have ever been in a REAL kitchen before

 

[Saint Spud]

He seemed more passionate than normal. Passion is good

Don’t disagree. I liked a lot of what he said.

It was just…bizarre at times.

 

[kcirdor]

But cake eaters when the cake is not as good as it was before don't criticize, critique ask what and why you use each and every ingredient and say "You should have used all-purpose flour instead of self rising " Say the baker is a bum and does not know what he's doing even though he's been a baker at a high level before. When NONE of them have ever been in a REAL kitchen before

I don't know if you ever worked in the food industry and was able to see the complaints.. but the cake eaters most certainly do those things.

 

[reason2believe]

Note to self - don’t chew gum while answering questions.

 

[reason2believe]

his lack of self awareness with the mouth noises has me thinking he has lost a step

 

[JackDiesel]

But cake eaters when the cake is not as good as it was before don't criticize, critique ask what and why you use each and every ingredient and say "You should have used all-purpose flour instead of self rising " Say the baker is a bum and does not know what he's doing even though he's been a baker at a high level before. When NONE of them have ever been in a REAL kitchen before

Our bakery went out and spent a lot of money, bought all the best ingredients, bragged on doing so and said being the best in our area is the standard. Then turned out a cake that is a mess and a competing bakery down the street made one better for half the price.

Our baker used to have a couple stud sous chefs working for him but he wanted to prove to everyone he knew best and went out and got a McDonald's burger flipper and made him the head chef. Now the cakes aren't up to anyone's standards and the employees are disgruntled with the best of them probably being sent off. The baker then gaslights everyone else comparing his McDonald's burger flipper to Michelin Star Chefs.

 

[Saint Taysom]

He seemed more passionate than normal. Passion is good

I didn’t read it as “passion”… I saw it as contempt for the media and fan base. The gum smacking was extremely low class and disrespectful, and the comparison of Dennis Allen to 3 HoF coaches was a complete joke!

He also dodged every tough question.

 

[RJ in Lafayette]

I suppose I am one of those who does not believe I need to be qualified to be an NFL head coach or general manager--or president of the United States (a general comment not aimed at any one president)--to be critical of the job being done.

The Saints are a sports-entertainment business with a current valuation of perhaps four billion dollars. I expect professionalism and a competence level at a high level in such a business. Before yesterday, Loomis in public did not appear often--and certainly did not say much of substance. In his years as head coach, Payton was the public face of the franchise. Yesterday, at least for a time, Loomis became that public face. The gum-chewing was inexplicably unprofessional. If Loomis were feeling ill, he should have postponed the press conference for a few days. But the gum aside, I have two criticisms of his performance--and that is what it was--yesterday.

First, the tone. Some have suggested that he seemed arrogant. What I saw yesterday was a combative tone trying to mask lack of confidence. Before yesterday, Loomis has always come across as a sovereign who simply did whatever he wanted without fear of criticism inside or outside the organization. Yesterday, I got the feeling that Loomis knows that the fan base, if not some inside the organization, finds the team's performance unacceptably poor and believes that he as general manager bears the responsibility.

Second, the substance. Some of his substantive arguments were insulting. Loomis could have said that he believes Dennis Allen is a good coach, that he was encouraged by how hard the team played in the final quarter of the season, that some NFL organizations are not sufficiently patient with their coaching hires, and that he believes it is in the best interests of the franchise that Allen return as head coach. Instead, in prepared remarks, he compared Allen's last two years to the first coaching years of Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick, and Tom Landry.

For two reasons, his comparisons were patently absurd.

One, Noll and Walsh took over teams that had hit bottom and that needed to be rebuilt. And Landry was coaching an expansion team. The stated rationale for Allen being named head coach was that the Saints were a competitive team and that the continuity provided by Allen would keep the Saints competitive.

Two, for every example one can give of an NFL head coach whose record in his first two years was poor and who became a great coach, one can give 20 examples of an NFL head coach whose record in his first two years was poor and who never achieved any success.

Also, Loomis was asked about the team's age, and his response was "age is a number." Sadly, age is much more than a number in football and life, and the age of our star players and the relative lack of young players who are or can be star players are serious issues. (And yes, we have some very good young players, but not enough of them, and few have won postseason honors.)

 

[HouseCall]

Arrogance has to be earned. Payton earned that right. Loomis has only exposed himself since he left. He should have hired a strong HC and given him what he needs to be successful instead of installing a puppet and trying to make the decisions himself. Couldn't even maintain the "culture" he talked soo much about.

Loomis made a mistake with Allen, no doubt.

The heart of that mistake was his failure to realize that Payton was the “culture”.

So without Payton - the “culture” eroded and what remained was not enough to carry the team out of mediocrity.

I don’t think Allen is a bad coach - but he’s not suited to carry on the culture of someone who is his polar opposite in both personality and coaching style. It was Loomis’ job to acknowledge that and he failed to do so.

Now the Saints are “rebuilding”, essentially and again, we have a coach who is not suited for this task because he’s been in the building too long for the players to respond to a new way.

It’s frustrating.

 

[504gks]

Loomis made a mistake with Allen, no doubt.

The heart of that mistake was his failure to realize that Payton was the “culture”.

So without Payton - the “culture” eroded and what remained was not enough to carry the team out of mediocrity.

I don’t think Allen is a bad coach - but he’s not suited to carry on the culture of someone who is his polar opposite in both personality and coaching style. It was Loomis’ job to acknowledge that and he failed to do so.

Now the Saints are “rebuilding”, essentially and again, we have a coach who is not suited for this task because he’s been in the building too long for the players to respond to a new way.

It’s frustrating.

I am so sick of the word "culture" Its like all of sports suddenly discovered a new word....