Saints players and other key sports and public figures are angry at Drew Brees for his anthem comments (1 Viewer)

[saintfan-n-alex]

I think twitter might be the dumbest invention of all time.

all of social media but twitter it the top

 

[BroKV]

I forking hate 2020

 

[FlySaint]

The proof that kneeling during the National anthem is the wrong way to seek redress is obvious...look how divisive it’s been. At this point can anyone rationally think kneeling will cause a new and different reaction from the “other side”, and cause change? Not a chance.

And the same goes for this hysterical overreaction and mob rule mentality against Brees today. He said nothing wrong or disrespectful. But all the “other side” hears is “he said kneelers are bad”! If one wants someone to listen to their issues then they must be prepared to do same. And the environment right now is widening the gap, not closing it.

 

[SystemShock]

Kevin Hart wasn't canceled. The people who run the Academy Awards asked him to apologize for some homophobic jokes he made and he refused. So he didn't host the Oscars. That's it.

He got a Netflix special pretty soon after and has headlined several big movies since then, and had smaller appearances in several more.

Kevin Hart being canceled is pretty hyperbolic.

You know what I wonder? How many of them would have "canceled" Brees had he come out in full support of his teammates.

 

[bobad]

After much optimism by me, it is beginning to sound like the season should be canceled.

 

[LonghornSaintsFan]

I will say this. I don't agree with a lot of my coworkers and friends and their stance on a lot of things. But I respect it. And Thomas and Brees should too. No one should force anyone to follow a trend

How dare you insert reason over irrationality!

 

[SystemShock]

The proof that kneeling during the National anthem is the wrong way to seek redress is obvious...look how divisive it’s been. At this point can anyone rationally think kneeling will cause a new and different reaction from the “other side”, and cause change? Not a chance.

And the same goes for this hysterical overreaction and mob rule mentality against Brees today. He said nothing wrong or disrespectful. But all the “other side” hears is “he said kneelers are bad”! If one wants someone to listen to their issues then they must be prepared to do same. And the environment right now is widening the gap, not closing it.

There was a point when the kneeling had its 15 minutes of fame, and was mostly ignored, but then, a tweet when out...

 

[DerrickB]

Well one thing for sure...there will be a close meeting between the coach and all the players and bet Drew will address this issue. He has done this before and and will do it again. This team is full of mature leaders that will come together collectively. Chill people.

You say that now

 

[No2DC]

It's about to get ugly. I guess I'll be back later.

 

[guidomerkinsrules]

There needs to be a conversation in America... A CONVERSATION.. I am a white guy and I see things through the lens of a White Guy... Black folks see things through different lens... I don't hate black people but there is a segment (I think a small segment) of white people who do... I also think there is a segment of black people who hate white people... A conversation needs to be had where people of both views TALK to each other....Not OVER each other to win a point... The criminals white and black are going to not participate.. But as a white guy I don't bear responsibility for the idiot white guys in the same manner as the vast majority of black people don't bear responsibility for the idiots who are black..

The topic is kneeling during the national anthem. There has to be a COMMON GROUND where we can all begin from. We are all Americans so let's start there. The flag represents our country... an imperfect country to be sure but one that for the very most part is a great country... So I think we need to start with that common ground of standing as an example to the idiots... white and black... that the vast majority of us stand together to improve on our imperfections. I would march in protest against the outrageous actions of the white idiots.... but I would appreciate the same for the actions of the black idiots.

We cannot let the handful of idiots take down the entire country and that seems to be what is happening. Now a team of brothers.. Drew and CGM at the forefront right now... seem to be at each other.... That's what the idiots want to happen...

And this country will not get better if that is allowed to happen

the problem is not people's feelings about other people
the problem is one of power
address the power imbalance, the other stuff takes care of itself

 

[football]

You say that now

What do you mean? You don't think we have mature player that can discuss this later on rationally

 

[DerrickB]

What do you mean? You don't think we have mature player that can discuss this later on rationally

You been to Twitter yet?

 

[Krodwhodat]

I'm going to take it that you meant to say kneeling during the anthem.

I'm a Drew Brees fan. I love the way he plays the game and the type of player he has been. Brees played football for the Saints and helped bring our city a championship. Together with Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis, they have helped make the Saints a respected organization. But to say "what he has done for a predominately African American city....." IMO, that borders on the ridiculous. Keep this in mind. The Saints have paid Brees for every snap he has taken. Brees hasn't played here for free.

My issue with Brees statement and the people who keep repeating his line of thinking is this. From the start, Kap and the players repeatedly informed critics that they are not protesting the flag. I'll say that again, PLAYERS WERE NEVER PROTESTING THE FLAG. They stated that they protested during the anthem to bring attention to the very things that the WORLD is currently protesting against.

If I tell you that I'm doing A and you turn around and accuse me of doing B, the problem is not with me, the problem is with you and your refusal to understand what A means. It's much easier for you to get enraged about B.

I appreciate the response and I understand. And while their intent is to not disrespect the national anthem or the flag it’s still something I’d rather not do to show my support for black lives matter. It’s not because I don’t care or that I won’t stand it’s unity, it’s because I wore the uniform and for me both have special meanings that I hope are respected in the same way. I think that we as a society or fans are putting the spotlight on a symbol rather than the actual issue at hand. What I am trying to say is show me that you are making change. Show me where your heart is. Show me you aren’t kneeling because it’s cool or because you are scared of backlash. There are many of black and white Americans all over this country that are speaking out on their computers, blacking out their screens, hashtag this and that. When they turn off their computer or phone the thought of actually doing something never crossed their minds. I promise you there are many white and even some black football players that have knelt down for the anthem and haven’t done sheet for the actual cause. They are just more worried about their fans, image and next contract than civil rights. Let’s look at the deeds, look at what they have done in their lives to further the cause. Yes Brees may not have a list of African American specific things he has done but what he does do has a non racial or biased intent to it. He works to bring young kids of all race together with his flag football, he builds play grounds for poor communities and for handicap children. He is helping feed the poor and needy during Covid. Plus I’m sure tons more that we don’t know about. I know some but I won’t get into it here. Regardless if he didn’t say what you or MT or anyone else wanted to hear that’s fine and you can be angry but don’t mistake what he says as his actions because he is a better man than I am. So if kneeling during the anthem is all you are looking forI’m not sure you or anyone else understand what the protest is for. Its for action not show and Brees is always about action.

edit- guys I want to edit this post as it correctly was pointed out to that I made a comment about black players kneeling and not doing anything for the cause. I was talking in reference to a broader sense of service as it what Brees does in general and not talking about stopping police brutality. Of course black Americans can’t do anything about the brutality and it was a terrible miss on my part to not reread my post before I submitted it. This entire kneeling protest as well as the other things happening right now directly relate to police brutality and I don’t want to take away from that specific focus by tackling multiple issues.

 

[St. PreDATor]

People who still are upset with Kaepernick are the same people who are mad about the riots. In short - they just want black people to shut up and not protest in any way that isn't easy for them to ignore.

Wow yes I’m pretty sure almost everyone is mad about the riots and looting ... protests are different but riots are not legal and shouldn’t be applauded...

 

[Saintamaniac]

The proof that kneeling during the National anthem is the wrong way to seek redress is obvious...look how divisive it’s been.

Is there a board that one has to submit their manner of protest to for approval? The original protest showed proof of a number of things:

1. It showed that no matter how much people are told the real reason for kneeling, they will make up their own to get mad about.
2. It showed that a group of people will hold their outrage until told to be outraged
3. It showed an willingness to turn a blind eye to real problems that a segment of our population face on a daily basis.
4. It shows that the majority are perfectly fine with a minority of the population being treated unfairly and they are perfectly aware that it is a problem.