Match Up Spencer Rattler named starting QB ; Jay Glazer reports Rattler expected to start next 3-4 games (month) until Carr’s return (2 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

The only exception that I can see where money may not have anything to do with it could be the Cleveland Browns. They are keeping Watson in there because they are paying him a stupid amount of money. And he quit on the team on TV!!

He may get yanked in the next two to three weeks if he continues to stink it up.

Back here, Rattler, in my opinion, would have to play lights out for him to take the starting job. A team doesn't shell out that much money to have a guy sit.

I mean sure. Carr wasn't the problem on offense so Rattler would have to be really good and show that he can do things behind this bad OL that Carr can't. But if he does, I think he keeps the job as long as we are on a streak. They would likely just say that they don't think Carr is physically ready until such time as they need to go back to Carr. That way it doesn't get Rattler down as much if he has to be benched because Carr is "finally healthy" and Carr isn't embarrassed by a Rookie taking his job.

 

[GeauxSainz]

Praying for you friend

Will be there working man. Prayers for those who live there.

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

Can't argue with your points. His placement on deep and sideline throws is impressive. The only counter argument would be Rattler's inconsistent accuracy/placement on crossing routes over the middle. We saw that show up in the preseason as well. Some of those could have been caught, but they were all at least a yard behind where they should have been placed. Those routes technically provide the smallest catch radius, least ability for WR's to adjust to the throw, and lowest probability of a perfectly placed throw by nature of a speedy WR running full speed across your face. It was my most difficult throw to deliver in stride consistently and I think a lot of QB's struggle with it.

He'll get more consistent at those throws with more reps and coaching. I'm just thankful we have something to look forward to this weekend instead of a backup QB Nathan Peterman type game where we're lucky to make it to halftime before we turn the TV off in favor of reorganizing our tools (funnn).

I was wondering when this would be mentioned. He’s shown a lot of promise but was throwing behind receivers going over the middle in the preseason. Very fixable, but caused a few drops and killed some YAC when he completed the passes.

 

[Tulsa Saint]

It's not likely to happen because of our OL issues and the fact that Rattler is a rookie, but if Rattler goes in and his mobility allows him to light it up and we score 30 plus points on the strength of Rattler creating and making throws, then Carr's going to sit on the bench while he "gets fully healthy" and stay there unless Rattler really messes up. DA can't afford to mess with the chance to keep his job if Rattler is lighting it up.

Spencer lighting it up could keep a lot of peoples jobs. Finding a solid starting QB in the 5th round buys time for sure.

7-10/8-9 with Rattler playing well probably buys them all another year. That record with Carr almost certainly doesn’t.

 

[los226]

Even if Rattler plays well, I'd rather have him get his taste of the real NFL and go back to learning for the rest of this season. There have been examples of QBs coming in mid season and succeeding, but most of them were already the heir apparent going into the season and just not having enough experience to start week 1 as a rookie. This isn't Rattlers reality. Carr was the entrenched starter and got most of the reps all off season. If Rattler is going to be the guy, I think the best way to do it is to give him the whole off season working under that assumption.

I agree, I was hoping he’d not have to play this season. It just feels like it’s more beneficial to let rookie QB’s sit a year or two when you look at all the young QB’s that have had success recently. But then you have your Joe Burrows and Jayden Daniels that come out the gates playing well, so you never know.

 

[DavidM]

Not saying it will happen, but he said pretty much the same about Jameis when Dalton came in.

Things change. If Rattler balls out and shows he’s at the same level as Carr, you have to roll with the rookie.

l expect Rattler to struggle and not play himself into a competition to be the starter. That’s not a knock on him at all, or indicative of my thoughts on what he’s capable of longer term, just what seems most likely, both as an inexperienced rookie and the state of the offensive supporting cast.

But…

If his skill set allows him to start masking offensive inefficiencies and elevate the play of those around him - for instance, his mobility opening things up for other playmakers, his escapability taking pressure off the OL - then the conversation changes.

Carr has been hit - and hurt - quite often, since joining the Saints. If Rattler can improve at a rapid pace, and use his physical abilities to mitigate defensive pressure, I don’t see how coaches could ignore that. Carr is the more polished QB right now, but there’s an argument to make that Rattler has been given an opportunity to play himself into a consideration of being a better fit for what the offense is working with.

 

[DavidM]

And just for hype, I never tire of watching this play. Of all his highlights from the preseason, this is probably my favorite. This was a veteran level pass, tight window into double coverage, that could not have been placed any more perfectly.

 

[saintmike23]

Not gonna quote reply but if Haener had better accuracy and anticipation that Rattler he would be the starter despite less arm strength. Haener is a game manager at best. At worst he makes the field smaller and easier to defend.

He’s not bad, just not good enough.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Can't argue with your points. His placement on deep and sideline throws is impressive. The only counter argument would be Rattler's inconsistent accuracy/placement on crossing routes over the middle. We saw that show up in the preseason as well. Some of those could have been caught, but they were all at least a yard behind where they should have been placed. Those routes technically provide the smallest catch radius, least ability for WR's to adjust to the throw, and lowest probability of a perfectly placed throw by nature of a speedy WR running full speed across your face. It was my most difficult throw to deliver in stride consistently and I think a lot of QB's struggle with it.

He'll get more consistent at those throws with more reps and coaching. I'm just thankful we have something to look forward to this weekend instead of a backup QB Nathan Peterman type game where we're lucky to make it to halftime before we turn the TV off in favor of reorganizing our tools (funnn).

He's been like that since college and it showed up in TC.

It's something that does worry me at times, in that his accuracy ie the ball will get to his target, but the placement is sometime slightly off, and it's more often behind the receiver than not. It could just be inconsistent trigger pulling. IDK but's noticeable, it's why I think he needs a #1 WR with a large catch radius that will make those plays, because he'll stand in the pocket an take a big hit to get a throw off. So somteims his WR will need to bail him out with a tough catch, but I concur...he doesn't always deliver an easily catchable ball. It's also not just on crossers, but out routes as well.

 

[jahsoul357]

Not gonna quote reply but if Haener had better accuracy and anticipation that Rattler he would be the starter despite less arm strength. Haener is a game manager at best. At worst he makes the field smaller and easier to defend.

He’s not bad, just not good enough.

Game managers win Super Bowls; most of them actually, including last year...lol

That's said, I felt that the nod was going to always go to Rattler, even though I think both Haener and Rattler would work well. With the hype he is getting, I'm hoping we can get a glimpse into the future.

 

[Artifactual]

If you’re going to be undersized at that position (Haener is barely 200 pounds), you better have some incredible gift that overcomes it. Rattler has that kind of arm talent. Haener does not.

Speaking of undersized, we're 19 pages into this thread and that hasn't been fully discussed yet. SMH

Haener is 6'1" Tall
Rattler is 6'0" Tall

If you're calling a spade a spade don't be blind to the cards in your hand.

 

[Jesse Custer]

Speaking of undersized, we're 19 pages into this thread and that hasn't been fully discussed yet. SMH

Haener is 6'1" Tall
Rattler is 6'0" Tall

If you're calling a spade a spade don't be blind to the cards in your hand.

Yeah, but Spud mentioned weight, not height. And Jake does look a little slight compared to Spencer. Not quite as extreme as Bryce Young compared to Kyler Murray, though.

 

[Saint Spud]

Speaking of undersized, we're 19 pages into this thread and that hasn't been fully discussed yet. SMH

Haener is 6'1" Tall
Rattler is 6'0" Tall

If you're calling a spade a spade don't be blind to the cards in your hand.

You missed my point about his arm talent which Haener doesn’t have. Not just arm strength, but the ability to make off-platform throws and throws on the move.

Haener doesn’t have any excellent trait that helps him overcome the size. Rattler does.

 

[Saint Spud]

Yeah, but Spud mentioned weight, not height. And Jake does look a little slight compared to Spencer. Not quite as extreme as Bryce Young compared to Kyler Murray, though.

Right, and Murray has insane arm talent. Like Russell Wilson (did).

Brees had insane accuracy and timing. Not to mention footwork and processing.

Point is, if you’re undersized, how do you make up for it?

 

[Artifactual]

Yeah, but Spud mentioned weight, not height. And Jake does look a little slight compared to Spencer.

They are 4 pounds apart in weight.

That's the difference between eating from the all you can eat buffet last night instead of eating a salad.

The truth of the matter is that both Haener and Rattler are undersized and underweight in ideal measurements.