Match Up Spencer Rattler named starting QB ; Jay Glazer reports Rattler expected to start next 3-4 games (month) until Carr’s return (1 Viewer)

[wnelson]

Let's do it. Time to shine buddy. steal that job.

remember when aaron brooks went in for an injured jeff blake? and blake was having an awesome season too.... brooks took his jerb.

 

[meily]

Carr is getting paid $37.5 million a year. Spencer Rattler is getting paid $1.08 million a year.

Carr is going back in the second he can. It's a financial move.

I do not think money has anything to do with it, if Carr was stinking up the joint and Rattler comes in and all of a sudden the offense is moving I do think they would put Carr back in, but for all intents and purposes Carr has not been the problem, so his job should not be in jeopardy once he is healed up.

 

[Booker]

If Rattler plays so so or poorly, then Carr goes back in when he’s healthy.

But if he plays well you take that gift horse and ride it and figure out what to do with Carr after the season.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

Even if Rattler plays well, I'd rather have him get his taste of the real NFL and go back to learning for the rest of this season. There have been examples of QBs coming in mid season and succeeding, but most of them were already the heir apparent going into the season and just not having enough experience to start week 1 as a rookie. This isn't Rattlers reality. Carr was the entrenched starter and got most of the reps all off season. If Rattler is going to be the guy, I think the best way to do it is to give him the whole off season working under that assumption.

I can see that reasoning, but if he goes back to bench how short is Carr’s leash if he doesn’t play well in his return?

All things equal I would have preferred his rookie season go much like Mahomes did

 

[MarylandWHODAT]

I do not think money has anything to do with it, if Carr was stinking up the joint and Rattler comes in and all of a sudden the offense is moving I do think they would put Carr back in, but for all intents and purposes Carr has not been the problem, so his job should not be in jeopardy once he is healed up.

The only exception that I can see where money may not have anything to do with it could be the Cleveland Browns. They are keeping Watson in there because they are paying him a stupid amount of money. And he quit on the team on TV!!

He may get yanked in the next two to three weeks if he continues to stink it up.

Back here, Rattler, in my opinion, would have to play lights out for him to take the starting job. A team doesn't shell out that much money to have a guy sit.

 

[Booker]

The only exception that I can see where money may not have anything to do with it could be the Cleveland Browns. They are keeping Watson in there because they are paying him a stupid amount of money. And he quit on the team on TV!!

He may get yanked in the next two to three weeks if he continues to stink it up.

Back here, Rattler, in my opinion, would have to play lights out for him to take the starting job. A team doesn't shell out that much money to have a guy sit.

If he plays well enough to make them think about it they can just slow roll Carr’s return.

But if Rattler can take the job, don’t think they wouldn’t love to unload Carr’s salary the next couple of years in favor of a guy on a rookie 5th round contract. That could help clean up a lot of the salary cap mess.

 

[schuetter]

I'm trying to temper my expectations but it's hard. My one question left for Rattler was whether the staff thought he was ready to start. It was confirmed that the staff think he is ready by Underhill and then by DA naming him the starter.

You are right about the footwork and spacing. I also noticed that he gets the ball out on time and the receivers are not waiting for it or having to slow up to make the timing work. I also noticed that not only is he accurate, but he has good ball placement which means that he is hitting receivers, including check downs to RBs, in stride so they can get YAC.

I suspect it's the way he gets the ball out on time and the fact that he puts the ball where he needs to for the receivers to get YAC that made Kubiak think he was the fit for this offense. That along with the arm and off schedule throws. Underhill said that Kubiak is excited to design a game plan around Rattler and seeing those things, I can see why.

I'm sure he will struggle some Sunday and he might not have a good game, but I see the vision for him in this offense and he is a perfect fit.

Can't argue with your points. His placement on deep and sideline throws is impressive. The only counter argument would be Rattler's inconsistent accuracy/placement on crossing routes over the middle. We saw that show up in the preseason as well. Some of those could have been caught, but they were all at least a yard behind where they should have been placed. Those routes technically provide the smallest catch radius, least ability for WR's to adjust to the throw, and lowest probability of a perfectly placed throw by nature of a speedy WR running full speed across your face. It was my most difficult throw to deliver in stride consistently and I think a lot of QB's struggle with it.

He'll get more consistent at those throws with more reps and coaching. I'm just thankful we have something to look forward to this weekend instead of a backup QB Nathan Peterman type game where we're lucky to make it to halftime before we turn the TV off in favor of reorganizing our tools (funnn).

 

[St. Widge]

Can't argue with your points. His placement on deep and sideline throws is impressive. The only counter argument would be Rattler's inconsistent accuracy/placement on crossing routes over the middle. We saw that show up in the preseason as well. Some of those could have been caught, but they were all at least a yard behind where they should have been placed. Those routes technically provide the smallest catch radius, least ability for WR's to adjust to the throw, and lowest probability of a perfectly placed throw by nature of a speedy WR running full speed across your face. It was my most difficult throw to deliver in stride consistently and I think a lot of QB's struggle with it.

He'll get more consistent at those throws with more reps and coaching. I'm just thankful we have something to look forward to this weekend instead of a backup QB Nathan Peterman type game where we're lucky to make it to halftime before we turn the TV off in favor of reorganizing our tools (funnn).

That's fair. I haven't seen much of his throwing crossing routes, but I do recall that he was a bit off in preseason. That could be a lack of time with those receivers or just an issue he has, but you are right that it is something he needs to work on. It's fairly minor, but it is the kind of thing that separates good from great. The good news is his other throws seem to have good ball placement so it appears to be something he can fix if he puts the work in.

 

[WhoDat?DrewDat]

Rattler can thrive with a banged up O-line.

Living in South Carolina I work with a big-time Gamecocks fan who has watched nearly every Rattler snap. He says Rattler played behind one of the worst O-lines in college the whole time he was there.

This makes him not only the crowd pleasing choice but the logical choice. He won't be rattled as easy by the footsteps around him.

Counterpoint: he's a rookie in the NFL playing the most difficult position.

If you don't block for him it'll be almost impossible for him to succeed. And it's not just pass pro. If you can't run the ball like last game that will make throwing even more difficult.

 

[Saint Jack]

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

The only exception that I can see where money may not have anything to do with it could be the Cleveland Browns. They are keeping Watson in there because they are paying him a stupid amount of money. And he quit on the team on TV!!

He may get yanked in the next two to three weeks if he continues to stink it up.

Back here, Rattler, in my opinion, would have to play lights out for him to take the starting job. A team doesn't shell out that much money to have a guy sit.

He'd have to play lights out, but When the Pats shifted from Bledsoe to Brady they traded him to the Bills the following year. he'd just signed a 10 year contract in NE, so yeah they can find a way to move him in a year if there's a controvery.

 

[bthomas1]

There will definitely be and uptick on the Throws and Completions to Tipton.

 

[muddbug2]

Carr is getting paid $37.5 million a year. Spencer Rattler is getting paid $1.08 million a year.

Carr is going back in the second he can. It's a financial move.

IMHO

Carr's pay is sunk cost, there is no recovering that - always play the player that makes the team better.
If SR plays well and adds "IT" to the team any good coach would start him.

 

[St. Widge]

When CDA announced Rattler as the starter in his presser yesterday he also said when Carr is healthy, he will be the starter when he returns.

If Rattler plays well or not in Carrs absence and then is relegated to the bench upon Carrs return, we'll all have an idea of what he can do in relief.

DA said that Winston would not lose his job to injury too. But it happened. And that's just the way it is in professional sports. Sometimes when a guy gets his chance through injury he proves that he should keep the job and the idea that you don't lose your job through injury goes out the window. It goes back at least as far and Wally Pip and Lou Gehrig.

 

[St. Widge]

Carr is getting paid $37.5 million a year. Spencer Rattler is getting paid $1.08 million a year.

Carr is going back in the second he can. It's a financial move.

It's not likely to happen because of our OL issues and the fact that Rattler is a rookie, but if Rattler goes in and his mobility allows him to light it up and we score 30 plus points on the strength of Rattler creating and making throws, then Carr's going to sit on the bench while he "gets fully healthy" and stay there unless Rattler really messes up. DA can't afford to mess with the chance to keep his job if Rattler is lighting it up.