Trevor Penning will work at LT and RT during OTAs (OTA update: Penning moved to RT) (1 Viewer)

[livefromDC]

Some of you are hilarious. Just because we had TF lining up @ LT in ROOKIE MINI CAMP where there were NO OTHER vet O linemen there you have him inked in as the starting LT for the next 10 yrs . SMH Even though DA said we are cross training a lot of people and it was just to see how he played LT because we know he can play RT. If they work Ruiz @ C a bit in camp are you all going to say the McCoy is switching to RG?? It's just all part of mini camp. OTA's and TC

You seem to not grasp the difference between "working a bit" at center and taking your first practice snaps ever at LT. He wasn't just working a bit at LT. His first time on the practice field and he's at LT, not RT. Hence why I used the Roaf/Armstead analogy. If it were just "working a bit" and not a full on try out, he wouldn't have been put there on his very first day.

LOL Duh. of course if we had Roaf or Armstead @ LT. They were/are a known commodity. And yes we are doing the smart thing by cross-training almost EVERYONE on the OL for lots of different reasons.

You're trying to hedge your opinion...and it's totally weird. None of us can predict the future to know who will win the LT spot. Relax. If it's, "LOL duh" to know that he wouldn't be practicing at LT if the Saints had a bonafied LT, then you should also know it's not just cross-training, because cross-training would occur regardless of who is on the roster. This wasn't that and you realize it, but for some random internet reason, you're pretending like it's both nothing and possibly something. How do I know that? Because in your next breath, you say....

Even if it;s kinda close between TF and TP @ LT it's better to keep TP @ LT and TF @ RT because it would be better not to have 2 starters not learning new positions one being a rookie along with maybe having a redshirt rookie stating @ LG all playing a new system just for cohesiveness sake

So you do get that's it's a competition at LT and not just cross-training. Sigh, you don't have to pretend like you have all the answers to post here. It's okay. But in response to the point you made here, I say...

LOL Duh.

 

[Belfast Saint]

Clearly we don't have a definitive answer at LT, and because that's not definitive, neither is RT. I think we all know the possible permutations.

I think step 1 is to understand whether Fuaga is a viable option at LT. They are starting that assessment in rookie sessions. If that's a yes, then he gets thrown into the mix there.

The step 2 is to see what Penning looks like (in the new scheme, to the new coaches). That assessment of Penning (starting in OTA's) will determine whether the approach is to A) leave Penning at LT and allow Fuaga to focus on RT B) make it more of an open competition at LT with either Penning or Fuaga potentially being thrown in competition at RT or C) Move Penning to RT to compete there, and cross train at LT, and leave Fuaga at LT.

We won't really know until OTA's how this will go.

 

[Mr. Coach Klein]

Some of us have been saying he needs to play guard since he first got here.

But why? His problem right now is getting low into his anchor. That will be harder at guard since he's facing stronger DTs. He'd probably even have to anchor lower making his problems worse.

 

[Belfast Saint]

But why? His problem right now is getting low into his anchor. That will be harder at guard since he's facing stronger DTs. He'd probably even have to anchor lower making his problems worse.

Essentially some people feel Penning isn't athletic enough ('slow feet') to play tackle and thus should be moved inside. I don't agree, but that's the perspective of some people.

 

[SWJJ]

But why? His problem right now is getting low into his anchor. That will be harder at guard since he's facing stronger DTs. He'd probably even have to anchor lower making his problems worse.

footwork, I'm not an oline guru, but I have a buddy that is, and he said day 1 Penning lacked the athleticism and footwork to play tackle, Speed rushers will destroy him. Sort of bursted my bubble after the 22 draft ) I was high on Penning after reading about him.

 

[ELLIASJWILLIAMS]

EJW yours is an opinion that I respect. Everything I have read and heard indicates that most of TP's issues have been either due to injury and not getting enough work or to bad coaching, Marrone in particular. I've heard quite a few people say that Marrone was not the right coach for TP. Even Duke Manyweather alluded to that with out coming out and saying it outright. He indicated that some of the nastiness and aggressiveness was coached out of TP, That he was thinking instead of reacting. I don't care where on the OL he plays, LT, RT or even G but I think his best chance this yr is the position he has always played , LT. I have said this before but i think the TP everyone will see this yr is not the guy you saw last yr. Therefore maybe comparing him to last yr is premature working under Manyweather, Benton and Dennison

Can't lie, when people open a statement with "I respect you" everything else beyond that is likely going to be an argument that digs in on their side and I'm fine w/ that. Just go and watch Baldy's last video where he talks about Penning and Ruiz. He specifically points out his lack of Balance and his inability to hold up against power, and simply put...stay in front of his man.

So it's not actually my opinion you're invalidating

The only thing I've been saying is that if his issues are related to coordination, similar to Peat's issues at any position on the right side, that maybe Penning will be better coordinated at RT. That's it, that's my opinion using my own unique insight. However, if he's truly improved at T and he looks better, then yes, keep him at LT and have the rookie play RT. It's a no brainer.

 

[Jesse Custer]

A lot of people seem to have this really morbid hope that Penning doesn't work out and the OL is a disaster this season just so they can have their biases justified.

 

[Mr. Coach Klein]

footwork, I'm not an oline guru, but I have a buddy that is, and he said day 1 Penning lacked the athleticism and footwork to play tackle, Speed rushers will destroy him. Sort of bursted my bubble after the 22 draft ) I was high on Penning after reading about him.

Penning is one of the most athletic tackles in history....Literally 5th and has an elite 3 cone. His feet are quick.

 

[SWJJ]

I'm cool with my buddy being wrong, and I hope Penning and Fuaga become long term all-pro franchise bookend tackles.

 

[Geldo]

Would anyone be shocked if we traded Marshon for a LT?

 

[sfidc3]

I guess you could see it that way, I had him as a priority resigning but it was only because he made it a less troublesome spot. It wasn't because I expected great or even good play from him. He def wasn't a scheme fit, which at this point I think is more important than quelling a fear. So yeah, I get your point but he was more of a bandaid than anything.

Except it appeared to many that the bandaid was the best olineman on the team once put at LT.....Sorry, I can't help but think letting Peat walk might bite us in the end.....hope I'm wrong....

 

[DavidM]

Penning is one of the most athletic tackles in history....Literally 5th and has an elite 3 cone. His feet are quick.

I think it’s entirely possible we haven’t seen his real ability because of a combination of learning curve struggles and two foot injuries that have set him back. Getting/staying healthy is the first step that will then allow him to hopefully improve with good coaching.

 

[St. Widge]

Would anyone be shocked if we traded Marshon for a LT?

I would be shocked. Not because the Saints wouldn't want to do that but because I don't see anyone trading a starting level LT that is better than the Fuaga option for Lattimore. Lattimore is a good player, but the absolute height of his trade value is apparently a 2nd, and maybe a 3rd or a 4th. Nobody is giving up a starting quality LT for that.

 

[Belfast Saint]

I think it’s entirely possible we haven’t seen his real ability because of a combination of learning curve struggles and two foot injuries that have set him back. Getting/staying healthy is the first step that will then allow him to hopefully improve with good coaching.

I think it's definitely possible and I think a reasonable person sits back and watches it unfold and hopes for the best.

 

[St. Widge]

Except it appeared to many that the bandaid was the best olineman on the team once put at LT.....Sorry, I can't help but think letting Peat walk might bite us in the end.....hope I'm wrong....

The problem is that he was that in the old offensive scheme. I wanted Peat back too and I though he played competent LT last year. But, I'm going to have to trust the new OL coaches and Kubiak that he isn't a fit in the new scheme and would not be that level in the new scheme.

Really I think what is going on is they are confident that Fuaga can be at least as good, if not better than Peat at LT, so that is their floor if Penning doesn't show up this year ready to start at LT.