USA Today Ranks Dennis Allen Worst Head Coach in the League (2 Viewers)

[St. Widge]

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Despite the changes tue Saints have made, the national media is not going to get behind the Saints until DA can prove that he's a good head coach. I'm rooting for him, but he still needs to prove he can win games through coaching and not player talent alone. Otherwise, he's going to get outcoached when it matters the most. His tenure as a head coach has shown that his team underperforms when going up against 500 or better teams. I think the criticism is fair. Some coaches are known good commodities. Some coaches are total unknowns. And some coaches are known to have low success rates. He's in that last group.

I agree, but I will say that he has already proven that he can win games from coaching on the defensive side. But he has likely lost some from his game management. His issues are poor game management, inability to relate to players, especially star players (this is IMO and some players say it isn't true), and the huge mistake of keeping the same offensive staff in place for two years. Hopefully he made the right hire at offensive coordinator and on the offensive staff because no matter how good of a defensive coach he is, it won't matter if the offense, particularly the running game, continues to struggle.

 

[ndcc]

Of course D.A. is the worst; after all, he still hasn't had a winning record as... oh, wait!

 

[MarylandWHODAT]

Full list:

NFL head coaches ranked 32-1

From Andy Reid on down, Jarrett Bailey ranks the NFL’s head coaches based on success, potential, and ability to motivate.

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[firecouch]

ridiculous underserved hate. No way he is worse than Eberflus, Mayo, Daboll, Saleh, and all the other new coaches that haven't proven anything yet.

Daboll was Coach of the Year and brought the Giants to the playoffs. He is definitely a better and more respected coach than DA. Saleh is also a better coach.

 

[SWJJ]

Daboll was Coach of the Year and brought the Giants to the playoffs. He is definitely a better and more respected coach than DA. Saleh is also a better coach.

Allen is 16-18 as head coach of the saints
Daboll is 15-18-1 as the head coach of the Giants.
Saleh is 18-33

Allen as the Saints Head Coach has a higher winning percentage than either of those guys,

 

[firecouch]

Allen is 16-18 as head coach of the saints
Daboll is 15-18-1 as the head coach of the Giants.
Saleh is 18-33

Allen as the Saints Head Coach has a higher winning percentage than either of those guys,

MUCH better talent on this roster than both New York teams.

Daboll won a playoff game.

DA has yet to beat a team with a winning record (that eagles game doesn't count) with us or the raiders. I just don't understand how anyone can defend him at this point. He's easily a bottom 5 coach and I don't blame anyone that ranks him as the worst in the league.

 

[Rexman100]

the man after the man is a dead man walking

 

[Rexman100]

The bottom 10 or so, you could draw their names out of a hat and the order wouldn’t matter.

I wouldn’t put McVay ahead of Tomlin.

Right now, it’s Andy Reid and then sort out the rest of a top half and a bottom half.

take away Mahomes and add Andy Dalton, then i wonder what his ranking would be

 

[DavidM]

take away Mahomes and add Andy Dalton, then i wonder what his ranking would be

That’s pretty much true for any coach, but Reid has had only three losing seasons spanning a 25 year career.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Just last season, pretty much everyone was agreeing with this take. Now all of a sudden, some are looking for pitchforks.

Until Allen proves otherwise, that title is well-deserved.

 

[Rexman100]

That’s pretty much true for any coach, but Reid has had only three losing seasons spanning a 25 year career.

DA has never had an elite QB in his prime. Ironically he had Carr too soon and maybe too late. But I agree that some coaches are better than others, and Reid is up there.

 

[DavidM]

DA has never had an elite QB in his prime. Ironically he had Carr too soon and maybe too late. But I agree that some coaches are better than others, and Reid is up there.

Yeah, there’s truth in that, too.

 

[Taker597]

I think it has a lot to do with his all time coaching record..

 

[Pocket Hercules]

Not much I’d disagree with. I’d put Payton high, too.

Bowles and Allen have similar track records but Bowles has two winning seasons and he’s coming off a division title. I’d have to put him above Allen.

Payton has a LOT to prove without a 1st-ballot HOF QB on his roster, and there's evidence to suggest - even within his latter years coaching the Saints - that the game might have passed him by a bit. "Stale" is the word that comes to mind. 100% appreciate what he did for the Saints as a younger coach, but I'm not even sure I'd want him back at this point, as I think his stock is trending down.

 

[DavidM]

Payton has a LOT to prove without a 1st-ballot HOF QB on his roster, and there's evidence to suggest - even within his latter years coaching the Saints - that the game might have passed him by a bit. "Stale" is the word that comes to mind. 100% appreciate what he did for the Saints as a younger coach, but I'm not even sure I'd want him back at this point, as I think his stock is trending down.

That might very well be true and I’ve wondered the same. I would put him higher on the list, though, because of his past, his demonstrated ability as an offensive coach, and wait to see if he can replicate that.