What happens to Reggie when Mike Bell returns? (1 Viewer)

[truck man]

Reggie is the 3rd down back and continued to get in as such even after the fumble.

So to answer your question, nothing will happen to him.

Reggie isn't just the 3rd down back. he plays a role on this Offense and will continue to do it. he was actually going to get more carries yesterday had he not fumbled cause he was the more effective runner until the 3rd quarter. in fact my biggest problem with Payton is that he doesn't seem to give Reggie carries in a row that allows him to get into a groove running the ball. we've seen improvement in his running this year, but albeit through limited carries. i just don't understand. he was all set to hand the reigns to Reggie and then after a strained calf, he has scrapped those plans. but it's hard to argue with a Coach who's sitting at 4-0 and has never trailed in 16 quarters of Football.

PT had 5 yards on 6 first half carries, but as the trend continues and we are allowed to play with a lead Payton goes for more of the grind it out type of back to wear a Defense down, as we saw yesterday and we wear down teams. the bigger question is what is going to happen between PT and Bell. as we've seen yesterday and since last year, PT still struggles to pick up those short yardage yards, whereas Bell has no problems. Bell is also explosive as a RB as proven by his many runs of over 10 yards. do we really not think that Bell wouldn't have done just as good if not better the last 2 weeks after what we had seen in the first 2 weeks? so as many like to think Reggie's carries will be cut down with 3 healthy backs, in fact PT and Bell will be the ones who's carries are limited. Payton has said he will feed the hot hand, so backs better make plays when they are in the game or they will not get the opportunnity.

 

[Cuozzo67]

When will these Reggie thread stop!

When he stops making stupid decisions on punts and following that up by fumbling the ball in his own territory and permitting the opponent to score a touchdown and get back in the game.

We saw Buddy Ryan's son yesterday, Rex, as the Jets Head Coach. Buddy Ryan was once so fed up with a player in Philadelphia (it was RB Ernest Jackson), he went into his General Manager's office and demanded that he be traded immediately because of continued bone-headed mistakes. He was quoted as saying, "Trade him for a 6-pack, and it doesn't even have to be a cold one."

Any objective, knowledgeable professional football observer can see that #25 is making the same mistakes over and over and over ... and I'm just talking about this season, 2009! Fumbles, running sideways or backwards on punt returns, and, worse yet, letting punts bounce for 15-20 yards instead of fielding with a fair catch. How many drives have started with bad field position because of his lack of judgment on when to fair catch or let a punt bounce. Lance Moore went in for a punt return yesterday ... he was smart enough to let the ball bounce ... it went into the endzone. The Saints started at the 20, not the bloody 4-yard line!

I want players with a high football I.Q. When players continue to make the same mistakes, it's incredibly frustrating. I think Payton has just about had it as well. He had something to say yesterday to Reggie (after his fumble and the Jets TD), and it wasn't very complimentary.

Enough about #25. The team is 4-0 and everybody enjoy it! As fans, we have a lot to be thankful for so far in 2009.

 

[Eman5805]

3 fumbles in 4 games is attrocious

he only had 3 fumbles all last season

i love reggies play making ability but recently it just makes me nervous to see him touch the ball

reggie fumbles every 12 carries....thats a terrible ratio when players like LT are fumbling every 1000 or so carries....i know hes not LT but the fumble to carry ratio is what is going to cost him his job

on punt returns he calls for fair catches and then lets them bounce even further into our territory......when you fair catch a punt, you dont get hit but he still moves away from it

i would say move him to WR but im afraid we'll target him too much and he'll fumble there too

for now he needs to take his touches sparingly until he learns how to carry the ball

on another note, his first carry after the fumble he didnt try to juke or spin or cut.....he carried the ball with both arms and went straight forward....im all for that until he gets into open space, then do what you do reggie

To be fair, his actual running wasn't an issue even before that fumble. His ypc average was excellent at 6.2 a pop.

He's more than made he happy with his running. But the fumbles are troubling. I'm at the point where I don't mind him running out of bounds after an 8 yard gain even if he could've gotten an extra yard or two. Sure as hell beats him getting those yards and getting stripped.

 

[meily]

This offense wouldn't miss a beat if Reggie was out for the rest of the year. Pierre showed you he can be just as explosive and elusive and dangerous as Reggie out of the backfield.

The best thing Reggie does is play decoy.

you can say that about everybody not named Drew Brees...try again buddy...and Pierre is not even close to being as explosive, elusive or as dangerous as Reggie, PT makes plays the best way PT can make plays and thats not with speed, elusiveness or explosion, there not the same player not matter how much you'd like to believe it, I think people hate or frustration with Bush causes them to exadurate when they put him down.

 

[truck man]

Reggie has regressed. No one's hating, they're simply stating observations. I promise you even reggie himself is unhappy with his performance yesterday. Stop painting yourself out to be a better fan b/c you blindly defend him. I'm more sick of of the blind defenders than the threads about reggie's problems

Reggie has regressed? he has his higest YPC since he's been in the league. the only thing that has regressed is his carries cause we are playing with leads more now and have been going with the bigger back option to wear teams out in the 2nd half.

 

[R Train]

PT still can't get the short yardage when it counts. I'll take a swing pass or outside toss to Bush on 3rd and 1 any day over PT up the middle.

 

[SweetT]

With our defense playing stellar football, Reggie's main contribution to the team should be returning punts to go along with a couple of runs and catches (as long as PT or Bell is healthy). Everyone has a role on the team and returning punts is his. However, the topic of Reggie Bush is very fragile. Yes, he is a homerun hitter and a threat to take it the distance when he gets the ball, but he does need to be consistant and stop putting the ball on the ground.
I believe that coach Payton used Reggie perfectly in 2006. Reggie was used and very effective in a 2 runningback set, forcing a LB to cover Reggie in passing situations and we all know who will win that matchup. As a coach, you have to put players in position to succeed and Payton does his best to put Reggie in position to succeed.
I think Reggie should get at least 5 carries, 5 catches, return every kickoff and punt. This should average around 15 touches a game. It would be up to Reggie to make the most of his opportunities.

 

[bobad]

is ther any way we can stop some of these thread. Like a automatic ban if you start any thread that deals with PT vs Reggie , or those kind of threads. People we are 4-0 can we just enjoy how the team is playing.

A lot of fans, I bet most, sweat bullets every time Reggie touches the ball. It's been that way for over 2 years now. Do you think Payton also holds his breath every time Reggie touches the ball? Of course he does! I'm wondering how much longer Payton will stand behind him. He has his limits, as Carney, Karney, Mare, and many others have learned.

If Reggie becomes more consistent (we've been saying that for 3 seasons), it will take the pressure off Payton and the fans will settle down. Until then, expect a lot of Reggie threads.

 

[meily]

PT still can't get the short yardage when it counts. I'll take a swing pass or outside toss to Bush on 3rd and 1 any day over PT up the middle.

Oh no, you cant say anything bad about PT he does everything perfect every single time, havent you been following, this is a one of millions of threads about every single thing Reggie Bush has not done great or whatever mistake he has made...you can tell by the same recycled complaints that appear to be only things Reggie can do wrong and no other back.

 

[diat150]

you can say that about everybody not named Drew Brees...try again buddy...and Pierre is not even close to being as explosive, elusive or as dangerous as Reggie, PT makes plays the best way PT can make plays and thats not with speed, elusiveness or explosion, there not the same player not matter how much you'd like to believe it, I think people hate or frustration with Bush causes them to exadurate when they put him down.

PT looks like the explosive, elusive and dangerous back, not reggie. PT is the one making plays the last 2 games, in both the receiving and rushing game.

 

[truck man]

Oh no, you cant say anything bad about PT he does everything perfect every single time, havent you been following, this is a one of millions of threads about every single thing Reggie Bush has not done great or whatever mistake he has made...you can tell by the same recycled complaints that appear to be only things Reggie can do wrong and no other back.

right! nobody mentions that PT was 0-3 in short yardage situation or that he fumbled the ball, or that he had 5 yards on 6 first half carries, while Reggie was running to the tune of 6.0 YPC. i mean does no one feel that if Reggie had continued to get carries that he could have easily out rushed PT? it wasn't like PT was breaking all kind of tackles, he was getting good blocking up front and hitting the holes. same thing we saw out of Bush yesterday too. it's just as i stated and have been saying for months now, if we play with a lead Payton will use the bigger more grinding type runner. and so far it's been that case in all 4 games and the trend will continue.

 

[diat150]

right! nobody mentions that PT was 0-3 in short yardage situation or that he fumbled the ball, or that he had 5 yards on 6 first half carries, while Reggie was running to the tune of 6.0 YPC. i mean does no one feel that if Reggie had continued to get carries that he could have easily out rushed PT? it wasn't like PT was breaking all kind of tackles, he was getting good blocking up front and hitting the holes. same thing we saw out of Bush yesterday too. it's just as i stated and have been saying for months now, if we play with a lead Payton will use the bigger more grinding type runner. and so far it's been that case in all 4 games and the trend will continue.

the defense was keying on PT, and coach payton didnt learn how to use him until the last 13 carries.

you also said bush was going to get 250+ carries this year... im not putting much stock into what you say.

 

[EricInCT]

right! nobody mentions that PT was 0-3 in short yardage situation or that he fumbled the ball, or that he had 5 yards on 6 first half carries, while Reggie was running to the tune of 6.0 YPC. i mean does no one feel that if Reggie had continued to get carries that he could have easily out rushed PT? it wasn't like PT was breaking all kind of tackles, he was getting good blocking up front and hitting the holes. same thing we saw out of Bush yesterday too. it's just as i stated and have been saying for months now, if we play with a lead Payton will use the bigger more grinding type runner. and so far it's been that case in all 4 games and the trend will continue.

Come on now, you can't be serious

 

[truck man]

PT looks like the explosive, elusive and dangerous back, not reggie. PT is the one making plays the last 2 games, in both the receiving and rushing game.

i'd say they both look pretty explosive, elusive and dangerous, but the fact is PT has just gotten more opportunnities. it's easy to look good when you are constantly getting to the 2nd and 3rd levels of the Defense untouched, because our Oline is dominating tired Defenses.

where is that explosion, elusive and dangerous-ness on short yardage carries? PT seems to lack it there.

 

[truck man]

Come on now, you can't be serious

just stating the obvious