Why is it everyone is treating the missed field goal like we would of lost (3 Viewers)

In he first quarter, the Saints had 20 plays, ran 10 minutes off the clock and fumbled in the red zone., that was 7 points lost right there. They were also down 17 to 7 and came back. Nice job Saints. I looked at the standings this morning and it shows we're 5-1 and leading the NFC South. Enjoy the ride
 
To people saying we would definitely lose in OT if they won the coin toss. We stopped them a lot of times on defense during the game. I would say we stopped them in at least half their drives in the game including the drive before their last. The defense was not as terrible as people are painting.
 
To people saying we would definitely lose in OT if they won the coin toss. We stopped them a lot of times on defense during the game. I would say we stopped them in at least half their drives in the game including the drive before their last. The defense was not as terrible as people are painting.

Except when the defense needed to step up the most, they instead choke. Look, we are all happy for the win but this problem with the defense on the back end, especially at the most critical moments, is a recurring issue and it appears it is not getting addressed. That was a horrible scheme, combined with poor communication, that allowed a TD when the goal is to protect the end zone. There's a lot of football left and fortunes can change instantaneously. I'm happy for the win yes, but the secondary issues, especially during the last 2 minutes when they need to step up and instead nearly blow it, continues to rear its ugly head.
 
Except when the defense needed to step up the most, they instead choke. Look, we are all happy for the win but this problem with the defense on the back end, especially at the most critical moments, is a recurring issue and it appears it is not getting addressed. That was a horrible scheme, combined with poor communication, that allowed a TD when the goal is to protect the end zone. There's a lot of football left and fortunes can change instantaneously. I'm happy for the win yes, but the secondary issues, especially during the last 2 minutes when they need to step up and instead nearly blow it, continues to rear its ugly head.

So you don't think we had to step up in their drive where we forced a turnorver on downs?

I'm not sayung they were perfect, but they were not terrible and they had a good chance of stopping the ravens on OT if they got the ball first. This is a fact, everything else is just overreacting.
 
I still wasn't too worried even if he made it. We still had 24 seconds and 2 timeouts. For Drew, that's like 10 minutes.
 
Why is it all I hear is that the extra point was the only reason we won the game?

Yes it won the game for us!
But we were dominating the second half and if we went into overtime we still had a better then average chance of winning this game!

Because there are a high number of posters who cannot see anything good unless the Saints win by 50 every week and even then they'd likely complain that it wasn't 51.
 
Personally, I thought they stood a better chance going for 2 than they would playing overtime. #NoGuts
 
It's not about losing. It's called accountability. The 2 minute defense is unacceptable.

Pretending everything is just fine till this garbage is what lose us a game in the playoffs..
 
I think some Saints fans need the game to feel comfortable from start to finish. I think some other Saints fans are also just overly critical of the team no matter what. StilI, some others only see the positive. Finally, there’s the camp that maintains a balance, where they can appreciate a win and still have concerns about certain areas of performance. Put it this way, after the Browns game, Coach SP even said, and I paraphrase, “Happy for the win, but a lot of work to do. Play like that against a better team and we lose”. I don’t think anyone is wrong.

I’m a meat head, homer, Saints fan and I’m not afraid to admit it. Yes, I recognize deficiencies but I don’t dwell on them. I do dwell on all the good stuff though, including the W. I have co-workers who are Ravens’ fans and they’ve not been very happy with my treatment of them all morning. They are over in Connecticut and my emails have been similar to this all morning:

Good Morning Joe,

Great job on the 2019 Open Enrollment presentation last week. You looked extremely surprised when the words on the 24th Power Point slide veered to the right, but I think everyone was still able to read it. Also, I liked how you shared the responsibilities with Nancy and Joan in the second half of the presentation. I mean, allowing 2 other individuals to present was a first for you, and it shows major growth. Keep up the great work.

:hihi:
 
I think the issue the OP raises has more to do with people seeing that we won because the XP was missed and using faulty logic to conclude that had the XP been made, we would have lost - when in reality, had the XP been made, the outcome of the game was uncertain at best.

Now - could we have stopped the Raven's offense if we lost the loss? Maybe. Maybe not. Definitely no guarantees here.
 
So you don't think we had to step up in their drive where we forced a turnorver on downs?

I'm not sayung they were perfect, but they were not terrible and they had a good chance of stopping the ravens on OT if they got the ball first. This is a fact, everything else is just overreacting.

Yeah, they did step up on that drive. And thankfully the offense moved the ball, took some more time off the clock, and got another 3 points, which extended the lead to a full TD. But again, they had to put that defense back on the field and look at the result. TBH, I was extremely nervous, as I always am when that defense has to be put back on the field during those circumstances. I was actually unhappy with Payton's call on that 3rd and 3 when they went empty backfield and the Ravens blitzed up the middle forcing Brees out of the pocket and roll to his right and at the point, he had no choice but to throw the ball away and stop the clock. But I digress. My fears were realized, again, when they had to put that unit back onto the field needing a stop with 2 minutes remaining. And to the dismay, DA's unit does it again. It took a real fluke missed kick to win the game. I'm not asking for perfection either but come on. Fix that back end or it will cost the team again down the stretch.
 
I think some Saints fans need the game to feel comfortable from start to finish. I think some other Saints fans are also just overly critical of the team no matter what. StilI, some others only see the positive. Finally, there’s the camp that maintains a balance, where they can appreciate a win and still have concerns about certain areas of performance. Put it this way, after the Browns game, Coach SP even said, and I paraphrase, “Happy for the win, but a lot of work to do. Play like that against a better team and we lose”. I don’t think anyone is wrong.

I’m a meat head, homer, Saints fan and I’m not afraid to admit it. Yes, I recognize deficiencies but I don’t dwell on them. I do dwell on all the good stuff though, including the W. I have co-workers who are Ravens’ fans and they’ve not been very happy with my treatment of them all morning. They are over in Connecticut and my emails have been similar to this all morning:

Good Morning Joe,

Great job on the 2019 Open Enrollment presentation last week. You looked extremely surprised when the words on the 24th Power Point slide veered to the right, but I think everyone was still able to read it. Also, I liked how you shared the responsibilities with Nancy and Joan in the second half of the presentation. I mean, allowing 2 other individuals to present was a first for you, and it shows major growth. Keep up the great work.

:hihi:
Well Said...The Saints only had One complete game and that was against the Redskins.
 

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