COVID-19 Outbreak (Update: More than 2.9M cases and 132,313 deaths in US) (4 Viewers)

[DadsDream]

So it's about politics. And pointing out that the other guy was just as bad as this guy.

This is likely why you are not getting the response you wanted. And whether the legislation in the past used those terms or not, it's not the loophole that is now being used.

No, Widge. It's not about politics.
I'm simply trying to share what I know.
I'm involved with the Small Business Administration every day.

 

[Dago]

So it's about politics. And pointing out that the other guy was just as bad as this guy.

This is likely why you are not getting the response you wanted. And whether the legislation in the past used those terms or not, it's not the loophole that is now being used.

like I stated at the beginning....Congress did not structure this bill to do what they told us it was going to do

there is only 2 possibilities....they either did it on purpose or, even with the army of lawyers and advisors available, or they did it on accident. I don't read minds and really it doesn't matter. Either way it means they are not fit for office (in general...I am sure there are some exceptions. maybe.)

these bastages have lived posh lifestyles off our tax dollars and whatever gifts/kickbacks they can get playing their little power games and when a crisis came up and we needed them to do the job they are there to do they failed. No ifs, ands, or buts

 

[LuvNOLA]

Kinda like here in California. So far everything Newsom has done has been exceptional. When they say it’s time to reopen parts of the economy I have faith that it’s a good decision.

Oh, absolutely!!! TYG that we at least have 2 Govs that have good brains, care about their citizens, do not grandstand, are passionate & honest & willing to take the blame for any mistakes.......and they are CALM & easy to understand.

Today I am wearing my new campaign tee shirt for the 2020 election: “CUOMO/FAUCI️20”

 

[LuvNOLA]

What if I told you that you shouldn't believe everything you read on websites of ill repute such as saintsreport?

Noooooooo Way!!!!! Only the truth is spoken on the SR!

 

[Goatman Saint]

I never did. Now, I did get my mouth washed out with Ivory bar soap a lot.
My father could cuss like the old Marine that he was, but I couldn't even say "crap" or my mom would break out the Ivory.
"Ivory Soap, It Floats! 99 44/100% Pure!"

Dial yellow soap was way worse dude.

 

[St. Widge]

No, Widge. It's not about politics.
I'm simply trying to share what I know.
I'm involved with the Small Business Administration every day.

I'm not going to argue with you. You're a good guy and I know you mean well and are trying to share your knowledge.

It's just that that definition of small vs. not-small business isn't what is going on here. And whether the press is getting all the technical terms right or not and whether "not small businesses" should or shouldn't be getting the money, the fact is that lots of businesses that clearly are "small businesses" are not getting the money that was intended for them. And, even if everything is above board legally and morally (and I don't think it is with regard to morality), there needs to be more money made available for small businesses. That's clear even from the small sample size on this board.

 

[SoggyBottomBoy]

No, Widge. It's not about politics.
I'm simply trying to share what I know.
I'm involved with the Small Business Administration every day.

Well, you didn't just start your original post with the information about SBA classifications. Instead you started with "About those Small Business Loans, I see the media tripping and falling all over themselves about large businesses getting the loans, etc." It set a bad tone for the rest of your post. If that wasn't a "gotcha" jab at the media, then I was mistaken. Whatever the intent, it did bring some good follow up posts. The official designations of business sizes is interesting, but doesn't excuse the abuse of the funds or how it was poorly set up to allow it to happen in the first place.

 

[Dago]

take a look at the Louisiana Portfolio Guaranteed Loan that our governor was patting himself on the back over. I watched the video seminar and it sounded really good.

Then I went and looked at the participating banks and that was my first sign that there was a problem....only 6 small banks in the entire state are participating and most have already said they want you to already have an account with them

Home - LED

Louisiana Economic Development (LED) has both COVID-specific resources for small businesses and ongoing special program.

www.ledbizloan.com

I spoke to Lyle at St. Landry Bank & Trust and he flat out told me that they aren't really looking to make the loans without 150% collateral because the government is only guaranteeing 20%. That came as somewhat of a surprise considering that was never even forking mentioned in the webinar I participated in

Think about it....you are a bank and the state wants you to give out $100,000 capped at 3.5% interest to businesses that are likely in a bad financial situation and they are only going to back $20,000 of that. Well sheet if I was a bank I wouldn't do that either

 

[DadsDream]

I'm not going to argue with you. You're a good guy and I know you mean well and are trying to share your knowledge.

It's just that that definition of small vs. not-small business isn't what is going on here. And whether the press is getting all the technical terms right or not and whether "not small businesses" should or shouldn't be getting the money, the fact is that lots of businesses that clearly are "small businesses" are not getting the money that was intended for them. And, even if everything is above board legally and morally (and I don't think it is with regard to morality), there needs to be more money made available for small businesses. That's clear even from the small sample size on this board.

Well, you didn't just start your original post with the information about SBA classifications. Instead you started with "About those Small Business Loans, I see the media tripping and falling all over themselves about large businesses getting the loans, etc." It set a bad tone for the rest of your post. If that wasn't a "gotcha" jab at the media, then I was mistaken. Whatever the intent, it did bring some good follow up posts. The official designations of business sizes is interesting, but doesn't excuse the abuse of the funds or how it was poorly set up to allow it to happen in the first place.

I see.
There's a lot of anger and misunderstanding about how the SBA system works.

Did you know there's a handy-dandy tool on that first link I shared that helps the business owner determine if he's operating a Small Business?
I tried to share my knowledge about how the SBA business classification system works.
I will not do that again.

 

[B4YOU]

I think more than that. Retail places will ramp up fairly quickly as will active entertainment venues. I think people will be more hesitant to sit around strangers for a long period of time (theaters, bars, restaurants).

I should have clarified. I expect some cities/counties to require restaurants and bars to reduce their occupancy by 25-33%. So if you have an approved occupancy of 96 prior to CV-19, you will be required to limit occupants to no more than 24-32 during the early stages of reopening.

 

[Saint_Ward]

So.. why the spike yesterday? More testing access, or???

 

[St. Widge]

So apparently JBE doesn't think that we are quite so far along in the 14 day time period with a decline in new cases:

 

[St. Widge]

 

[Saint_Ward]

He got it from Trump and Fauci.

The White House projects 100,000 to 200,000 Covid-19 deaths

At least. And outside experts say that’s a reasonable estimate.

www.vox.com

To be fair to him, the number is fluid. Also, 60K deaths is THIS round. The CDC just said we are likely to get hit hard next fall/winter.

Actually, the 100-200k is still reasonable within the bell curve.

We have seemingly reached the peak death rate across this country. Some were earlier, some are later. Not sure if we'll have a 1 day peak, but if so, that was yesterday or Monday.

So, we're approximately half way through the bell curve. We still have to go down. So, we're just shy of 48k deaths in the US. So, multiply that by 2, which is 96k dead. That's what we'll probably end up with as new cases slow down, and deaths slow down. That's assuming the down side of the curve is the same as the upside, which it won't be. it will be prolonged and skewed to the right, so we may easily end up with over 100k dead.

That's how you read those bell curve charts. It's not the max.

It's not like this curve just ends with a cliff.

 

[St. Widge]

I wonder if he is concerned about a bump from Easter weekend?