Derek Carr world tour thread (updated with combine visits) (1 Viewer)

[SweetT]

The allure of playing for NY isn’t the same as it was in 1975 or 1985. Heck, it even doesn’t have the allure it had in 2005.
This is a post streaming era. Everyone gets every game. You see a lot of players make their championship marks and HOF careers in small markets. Payton Manning. Brees. Favre. Rodgers.
Mahomes. Burrow. Allen.
Being in NY or any other big market is no longer a requirement.

And to your point about it being better for a Evangelist to be in the South; is it?
Because I’ve lived here my entire life and there is vast difference between New Orleans and the Bible Belt South. IMO, NOLA and Atlanta are the two cities in the Deep South that aren’t “Bible Belt” towns.

Well, NY does have an allure to many people. Especially, people with money. I’m not talking about the allure of playing in NY, I’m talking about being rich and part of the “who’s who” of the city. I can definitely see his wife wanting to be there. So, happy life, happy wife.

I live in the Bible Belt currently and I grew up in Louisiana. Also, I lived in big cities in California, while traveling all over the U.S. Yes, you are correct when comparing the Bible Belt and the Deep South. I’m not comparing those two. I’m comparing NY to the Deep South. The Bible Belt isn’t at play here. There is a huge Religion gap between NY and the Deep South (Louisiana). It’s night and day

 

[NatureBoy]

This may add to your point, but I think it’s very important that the Saints have some sort of success post Payton.
Even if it’s a few division titles just to show the fanbase that there is a future post Payton/Brees.
Carr can be that guy.

I don't think we're close to that kind of success. I think this is more of a survival during a tough period kind of thing. We'll see. Maybe because our division is so week we can pull off a title with an 8-9 kind of season, but thats not what I'd call success.

 

[Saint Jack]

I don't think we're close to that kind of success. I think this is more of a survival during a tough period kind of thing. We'll see. Maybe because our division is so week we can pull off a title with an 8-9 kind of season, but thats not what I'd call success.

With Carr, I’d say 9-8.

 

[NatureBoy]

With Carr, I’d say 9-8.

Same thing really. Not much to hang your hat on but enough to keep fans on the hook I guess.

 

[Saint Jack]

Same thing really. Just not much to hang your hat on...but enough to keep fans on the hook I guess.

It’s still something in the post Payton era. It’s not a championship run, but it shows that the franchise is willing to build to something in the future.

 

[SweetT]

I don't think we're close to that kind of success. I think this is more of a survival during a tough period kind of thing. We'll see. Maybe because our division is so week we can pull off a title with an 8-9 kind of season, but thats not what I'd call success.

I think we would’ve finished with 9, maybe even 10 wins last year, if we had a decent QB. Dalton is way past his prime and was in no way a starting QB caliber QB. The division will most likely be worse than it was last year. So, I could see us winning 6 games from our division alone (with Carr). Now granted, things can change from now until then……including our situation. I will admit, the idea of all 4 NFC South teams, playing rookie QBs (if they all draft one), and Atlanta playing a second year guy (Ridder), would be pretty hilarious to me. I’m secretly wanting to see that

 

[Saint Jack]

Well, NY does have an allure to many people. Especially, people with money. I’m not talking about the allure of playing in NY, I’m talking about being rich and part of the “who’s who” of the city. I can definitely see his wife wanting to be there. So, happy life, happy wife.

I live in the Bible Belt currently and I grew up in Louisiana. Also, I lived in big cities in California, while traveling all over the U.S. Yes, you are correct when comparing the Bible Belt and the Deep South. I’m not comparing those two. I’m comparing NY to the Deep South. The Bible Belt isn’t at play here. There is a huge Religion gap between NY and the Deep South (Louisiana). It’s night and day

I’m not saying there isn’t still an allure, but it’s not the requirement it once had from the 70s to the mid 2000s.
Especially for the other NY team.

 

[Saint Jack]

 

[SweetT]

Have to admit, seeing Rodgers go to the Jets would be history repeating itself. The way Farve/Rodgers saga played out, to how the Rodgers/Love situation is playing out…and then Farve going to the Jets, and then Rodgers potentially signing with the Jets as well. I may have to see this go down

 

[Saint Jack]

Have to admit, seeing Rodgers go to the Jets would be history repeating itself. The way Farve/Rodgers saga played out, to how the Rodgers/Love situation is playing out…and then Farve going to the Jets, and then Rodgers potentially signing with the Jets as well. I may have to see this go down

Perfectly sums up Favre Vs Rodgers if Aaron becomes a Jet.

 

[Judge_Smails]

No QB likes to be hit. Just compare the stats. DC is a good QB.

Everett was equally a good QB.

 

[SigFreudianSlip]

Hurts is in his 3rd yr with an excellent team with a very good Oline and very good weapons around him AND a top 5 defense. So if we draft HH @ 40 and don't sign Carr and he busts we've wasted the rest of Cam,Davis and probably AK's career. Almost the same if he takes 3 yrs like Hurts to MAYBE develop then we have 1yr before he signs his next deal @ 25-30m because that's gonna be the going rate for a mid tier QB in 4 yrs. AND he'll be 29, 2yrs younger than Carr. He's not a Burrow or Maholmes that can come in and 1st or 2nd yr play at an elite or near elite level

I’m not high on Hooker, was saying that having your QB on a rookie deal is a great way to go, if the QB is good.

 

[IlovemySaints]

I said it and it’s true, you may be misunderstanding what ”ceiling“ means in terms of TH. Ceiling means, if TH played his absolute best he could ever play, then he could only reach what LJ is now and No more. His ceiling would be LJs floor. Where LJs ceiling is who knows, I cant even think of someone to compare that better than him as an RPO QB. I guess his ceiling would be that his passing level got to Carrs level while retaining his skill running the ball.

I disagree taysom is more of a rugby type player lol

 

[IlovemySaints]

Same thing really. Not much to hang your hat on but enough to keep fans on the hook I guess.

Not when another young qb we passed on is having success

 

[St. Geezy]

I’m not high on Hooker, was saying that having your QB on a rookie deal is a great way to go, if the QB is good.

Yep…a QB playing at a very high level while on a rookie contract is pretty much the biggest advantage you can have in today’s game.